Big Blue Huddle

Grim, Norm Snead and Vince Clements, plus a first roiunder ...for Fran Tarkenton Jan 27th 1972,  It broke my 9 year old heart at the time

Quote from: dasher on July 22, 2007, 04:06:38 PM
Great picture BigHitter,
Special teams play? Any clue as to the ballcarrier he dehelmeted?

It appears to be a Pittsburg Steeler helmet/Uni from the time.  I don't think its John Henry Johnson since he played for Pitt when NYG's had NYG on helmet

I am guessing RB/KR/PR/K Gene Mingo or  DB/PR/KR Johnny Sample. 

Timberlake was the worst..here are a few others


Booth Lusteg -  whom came in to cover when Gogolak had to miss a few games in 1967 due to Army issues...Allie Sherman was relieved in 1968 preseason when Gogolak informed him that he would get to every game via furlough, Lusteg cut immediately

George Hunt - mentioned above, the last straight toe kicker for the NYG's, went 6-11 on FG tries but even more disturbing, Hunt had many PAT's and FG's blocked, I believe 3 in opening season 23-14 win @ Philly.

Eric Schubert/Joe Cooper/Jess Atkinson - 3 poor kickers that bridged the Ali Hagi Shank & Raul Allegre years

let me guess since its blocked by the NFL now (must be sam spences music score. some reason NFL does not like certain songs played) the 35-33 comeback win, losing 33-14 into the 4th qtr and the Giants go of Ron Johnson & Tucker go wild


Frederickson - 10 catches 165 yards 2 Td's, 10 - 33 yards rushing, 1 TD

Fawlty Towers. all 13 glorious episodes.  its been a few decades since Basil Fawlty was on my radar.

sadly this is where the future is headed.

held hostage in an automated world.  sigh

I read a report a few years back when I was working on the IBM/ATT automated car sensor satellite systems that by 2050 Robots will be working more than humans, and humans will not even be needed to repair the Robots.  Repair Robots will fix the worker Robots.

RIP Mr Webster

You were very kind to this 9 year old at the time when I asked you @ Monmouth college training camp 1972 "why did you trade my favorite player Fran Tarkenton away to the Vikings. why didn't you keep him?" 

you must have been bombarded by us Kids that summer with the same question and you were nice as pie talking to me and my father.

Big Red smiled, looked at my Dad shook his hand and said;  "hey you have a little newspaper man there in the making"... he then shook my hand and said "Son we traded him because he no longer wanted to be a NYG and play with us".... absolute stunned silence by me, followed by a  "thank you Mr Webster" as he smiled and walked down the fence observing the team stretching. 

My late Dad, whom saw every NYG game at the polo grounds from 1938-55 (minus 1951/52 Korean War)  said this about Mr Blozis:

"He was gonna be a great one.  He was the first big lineman I can remember them signing. He was huge towering over both teams.  Whenever a Giant RB needed a yard or 2, they ran right behind him.  On sweeps, he would lead the corner and take out 2-3 guys with his body.  and on defense? he was an absolute terror, Steve Owen moving him around the line (ala Rover) and destroying his opponent.  I saw him play his last game, a 14-7 loss to the Packers in the championship game.  He was not the reason they lost.  The Packers ran away from him whenever they could and he chased them.  Had he not died? A line of Derogatis/Weinmeister/Blozis would have been something in the late 40's early 50's...it just was not meant to be sadly"

Thanks for the great article!

I always wondered what would have happened that October 22 1974 if Green Bay had gotten Craig Morton and the NYG's went after Archie Manning like reported in the NY Times?

I am amazed the opening game of 1971  a NYG's 42-40 win in a thunderstorm/rain throughout the game is not part of the article. HC Dan Devine suffered a broken leg in a pile up! Talk about the worst omen to start your career.  A devasting loss to longtime rival + compound fractured leg.

Ray Guy gets no love from Dave or john James.

What an interesting interview including the 400K dig at Tom Skladany.  Thanks Wolverine wherever you may be in 2021!

Quote from: Giant Obsession on May 12, 2021, 02:18:38 PM
good one.  Morris was also used by Hank Stram to try and deflect long FG that crawled over the crossbar.

Thanks.  did I win the prize 14 years later j/k

and

Stram was smart huh?  that's why that play became outlawed I believe. the goalposts were still on the goal line

btw - Chris Allen and I exchanged messages/emails between circa 1998 and his all too untimely passing in 2006.  I miss you Chris! I could ask you about Mckinnley Boston or Mickey Zofko and you would fire back with the most amazing info!  Chris Allen, the dean of NFL Historians


And now? Thanks GO! you rock and you have picked up very nicely for Chris.

Quote from: Bob In PA on May 11, 2021, 10:48:07 PM
Nap: I've seen "Safety Last" a few times.  It's excellent.  I have every Woody Allen movie on DVD (and there are a ton of them) as he's one of my all-time favorites. I've also seen "The Swimmer."  Good picks.  Bob

Thanks Bob. we all have good picks on here and I appreciate the sharing of knowledge.

The bank robbery scene where 2 groups of bank robbers show up and Woody has the crowd vote on who they would rather rob them, is about as silly as it gets!  or the deputy and the old women, when she tells him the obvious "those are the escaped convicts" and he replies deadpanned "I thought you were just a close family"... that movie never stops the laughs...and it was released on the heels of the very serious and great bank robbing movie "Bonnie & Clyde". I wonder if that why its an overlooked film and not as popular as "Sleeper" or many of his films?   its hysterical

Quote from: Bob In PA on May 11, 2021, 09:18:16 PM
Nap: I've seen this one. I'm interested in old movies because some of them show us where all of today's supposed original ideas came from.  Chaplin, in particular, is borrowed from regularly.  Bob

Bob: that's great! Chaplin, Keaton and Harold Lloyd are the trio of comics that were kings, and Fatty Arbuckle was the prince. 

Check out Harrold Lloyds 1923 masterpiece "Safety last"...it is one that will take the breath away...hint, its about the human fly explosion of the 1920's and climbing tall buildings. Lloyd did all his own stunts, much like Keaton and Chaplin. yet Keaton & Chaplin never did this daring of a movie with life on the line during any scene. breathtaking

A few more quirky modern films

1968 - The Swimmer - Burt Lancaster,  as a kid I thought this movie was cool, a guy going from yard to yard swimming pools in the neighborhood. now when I watch as a 58 year old? it is a very sad movie. maybe one of the saddest I have seen. nobody likes the guy and as a kid that went over my head.

1969 - Take the Money and Run - Woody Allen, well after the swimmer I had to lighten the moment.  IMO Woddy Allens finest is his first. The story of Virgil Starkwell the most unsuccessful bank robber in the world.  "Mary Hartman Mary Hartman" Louise Lasser plays his whiny wife. Done narration style.  I laugh from start to finish with this one, The only Woody Allen movie that I do.

1979 - over the edge - Matt Dillions first movie, this was banned in most states/cities in the USA.  This was life for some of us in the boring suburbs. Whereas 1982' "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" was just like my SR Year, over the edge was just like my Sophomore year.  The power of this movie cannot be denied. It shows everything wrong with what our parents thought was the "perfect" place to live.  Filmed outside of Denver, it could have been filmed anywhere suburbs in the USA.

If anyone is into Silent Films...

1919 - The Cabinet of Dr Caligari - Ceaser the Zombie! classic post WW! German effort that is stunning

1916 - Intolerance - billed at the time as the greatest motion picture ever made (not many made at that point lol) its 4 stories woven together with an incredible ending. a bit long tho..something like 4 hours

1920 - Der Golem - Paul Wagners Statue comes to life. remade in 1967 starring Roddy Mcdowell in "It"..1920's version was remake of 1914's lost in the war.

1925 - The Battleship Potemkin - Eisentsteins masterpiece of failed 1905 Russian Revolution. I had to write a paper for my Film class final in Rutgers. I chose this. Eisenstein shows a ruthless smiling russian soldier chopping the heads off flowers in the city interspliced with same smiling soldier chopping heads off of humans during battle.  This scene is often used to show the oppression of the Russian people under the Czar, destroying the city and its peoples as punishment and why the revolution finally happend in 1917.

More modern quirky movies

Targets - 1968 - Boris Karloffs last movie filmed before dying. An elderly horror film star, while making a personal appearance at a drive-in theatre, confronts a psychotic Vietnam War veteran who has turned into a mass-murdering sniper. Peter Bogdonavich directed


Duel - 1971 - Dennis Weaver - Steve Speilbergs "Road Rage" movie.  Check it out if you have not, its something that 50 years later, most of us have probably experienced to a degree.  very very powerful and well shot.  a favorite of mine since I was a kid


Race with the Devil - 1973 - Warren Oats/Peter Fonda entry. Two Families take camper on camping trip in Texas.  they witness murder.  they are then chased by Devil worshipers.  very scarey to a 10 yr old at the time. now, its rather silly in places


great thread!  thanks for some of the recomendations.

TE Morris Stroud - KC Chiefs - Old Municipal stadium - either 1970 or 1971


he was 6'10, the tallest player in the league and I think he was the first