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Title: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:20:12 PM
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Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:24:08 PM
https://x.com/nickfalato/status/1784015443172139455
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
https://x.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1784015421953237105
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: Doc16LT56 on April 26, 2024, 08:25:17 PM
I won't be surprised if he turns out to be better than Mckinney. Good pick.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:25:42 PM
https://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1784015347156226559
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 08:30:34 PM
I guess that means that they aren't as concerned at corner as the fans are. He's a really good safety even if he's a rodent.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:31:48 PM
Quote from: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 08:30:34 PMI guess that means that they aren't as concerned at corner as the fans are. He's a really good safety even if he's a rodent.

There are a few veterans that are still unsigned if needed
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: Gmo11 on April 26, 2024, 08:32:23 PM
Quote from: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 08:30:34 PMI guess that means that they aren't as concerned at corner as the fans are. He's a really good safety even if he's a rodent.

I think once there was that run on CBs they were left out in the cold but as a very pleasant consolation prize they get the best safety in the draft and they do have a McKinney sized hole at Safety so I do like this pick a lot.  And they would have had to trade up to get one of the CBs which I don't think they wanted to do given they don't have a ton of picks this year as it is.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:33:00 PM
https://x.com/nickfalato/status/1784016953889182018
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:31:48 PMThere are a few veterans that are still unsigned if needed

Sure but none of them are considered long term fixes. You hope with the second round pick to get a starter that hangs around through his second contract.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:34:58 PM
47. NEW YORK GIANTS: TYLER NUBIN, S, MINNESOTA
Height: 6-foot-2

Weight: 199 pounds

STRENGTHS
Terrific awareness and IQ
Playmaker
Deep zone instincts
WEAKNESSES
Stiff in man coverage
Pursuit angles
Team Fit: Tyler Nubin is a fantastic deep ballhawk. The Giants now have an ideal safety tandem to hold down the back end of the unit. New York will benefit from his range and overall presence.

Grade: A
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:38:09 PM
https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1784017595957436642
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: Jclayton92 on April 26, 2024, 08:39:44 PM
Yes please, if we get CB2 locked down we could have an ELITE level defense.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:41:03 PM
https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1784019551568441678
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 26, 2024, 08:39:44 PMYes please, if we get CB2 locked down we could have an ELITE level defense.

The Chiefs won the Super Bowl with their defense
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: Gmo11 on April 26, 2024, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:41:29 PMThe Chiefs won the Super Bowl with their defense

Mahomes helped a bit.  But point taken that the defense carried them all season being one of the very best.  I think the Giants are building a similar type of defense that can carry the team and a less than stellar offense on their backs.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 08:55:17 PM
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Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 09:10:39 PM
https://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1784027017131798629
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 09:15:17 PM
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Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 09:21:35 PM
Nick Falato
@nickfalato
My notes on Tyler Nubin

-Imposing size - good frame
-A glider and long strider - allows him to access
 funtioncal range for deep half/Quarters
- Very good ball skills - extends and secures passes
- Displined in coverage - doesn't get grabby, well-timed
   hits
-Excellent instincts and eyes in coverage - dangerous
  robber
-Excellent reactive quickness
-Elite periphrial vision/awareness - a threat to undercut
  backside routes
- Leverages elite spatial awareness to create turnovers
- Solid burst in plant & drive downhill - enhanced by
   processing
- Very good zone coverage, split-field safety option
- Sees through routes well - disciplined/patient,
   understands concepts
- Reported film junkie (it shows up on tape)
- Good overall tackler who comes square and
   maximizes his tackle-radius (32 ¼" arms)
- Good presence downhill with proper
   positioning/angles of attack
- Solid blitzing option
- Menace on special teams
- Tight hipped, not very fluid for a safety
- Not very explosive out of his breaks
- Transitions in man coverage aren't fluid
- Below-average recovery speed
- Has range due to stride length/acceleartion but
tightness affects his ability to consistently play the post
- Sub-optimal in man coverage

Overall, Nubin is an intelligent quarters safety with excellent instincts and ball skills. He has athletic limitations hinder his upside as a man coverage safety, but he's sound against the run and a physical presence with excellent size. He'll be a problem for offenses over the MOF, but the Giants must be wary of pre-snap shifts that could position Nubin with an undesirable assignment.
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Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: Philosophers on April 26, 2024, 09:35:05 PM
I guess his pursuit speed is the ding on him.  Said if a CB loses his guy, Nubin may not get there quickly enough to cover him.

His instincts are off the charts.  Saban loved him.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 10:08:16 PM
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Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 10:35:26 PM
https://x.com/Giants/status/1784045621709504704
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: killarich on April 26, 2024, 11:13:09 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 26, 2024, 10:35:26 PMhttps://x.com/Giants/status/1784045621709504704

Seems grateful for the oppurtunity .... Hope we do get it all. Can fill a big need
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: londonblue on April 27, 2024, 06:38:20 AM
He was the guy I wanted at 47. Like McKinney he was a bit hobbled rehabbing at the combine but on the tape he has all the range you could want. Like most safeties he lacks a top gear to match an absolute burner deep but he will put himself in good positions to make plays with above average smarts and recognition. Nubin has better ball instincts coming out than McK had and is happy to tackle, though not quite as physical. Just a really nice value meets need pick IMO.
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: MightyGiants on April 28, 2024, 09:31:30 AM
https://x.com/BobbySkinner_/status/1784573103021937023
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: Bob In PA on April 28, 2024, 04:43:08 PM
I know there are a handful of us who are already excited about this pick, but I believe soon all of us will be.

This is a very good player, the best safety in the draft according to the consensus, and it will show.

He will start on opening day and probably not disgrace himself.

Bob
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: Rosehill Jimmy on April 28, 2024, 06:47:51 PM
The absence of big play makers over the last few years has been glaringly obvious. Hopefully we're turning the corner
Title: Re: With the Giants 2nd round pick they draft S Tyler Nubin,
Post by: spiderblue43 on April 28, 2024, 07:24:42 PM
Quote from: Bob In PA on April 28, 2024, 04:43:08 PMI know there are a handful of us who are already excited about this pick, but I believe soon all of us will be.

This is a very good player, the best safety in the draft according to the consensus, and it will show.

He will start on opening day and probably not disgrace himself.

Bob

Nubin should have every opportunity to start, and I'd be disappointed if he didn't. Feel like we need a DT to work in tandem with Dex..but I'm hopeful the defense will be better with Burns and the rooks