Marc Ross, the man who oversaw the Giants' drafts for 11 years (his last draft was just graded in the 3-year draft grade thread), gave his take on the Giants drafting Nabers.
https://x.com/NFLTotalAccess/status/1784652442338197696
Carl Banks addressed his comments (Carl has had his disputes with Ross in the past). Banks pointed out that Ross didn't directly say Daniel Jones was a bad QB. Banks also pointed out, that if Nabers is as advertised, it will definitely help Daniel Jones (along with the other WRs)
Banks also disputed Ross' claim that the Giants drafted Nabers to try and fix Daniel Jones. Banks said that Nabers was drafted because the Giants needed a modern offense, and that starts with at least one elite receiver on your roster. Banks felt Jones was on his own (DJ will sink or swim on his own). If Jones wants to stay with NYG he is going to have to earn it himself. He did suggest he expects and improves Jones, but the key is Jones getting comfortable that his O-line is able to protect him.
I will say that Marc Ross tests one of my core tenets. I have a strong preference for seeking out former NFL people to hear their opinions and views on football. In general, I feel those views and opinions are more valid and tend to be better than other commentators.
Yet, what do I do with someone like Marc Ross, who I witnessed as terrible at his job for 11 years? The man even has a degree from Princeton, so he is certainly not stupid.
To date, I simply take the approach that I take with most of the true experts. Listen to what they have to say (while giving them the benefit of the doubt), but don't take their word as gospel. They need to support and lay out sound arguments for why they hold the opinions they do (especially, hot takes).
I will say, I don't disagree with his assertion big picture. If Jones doesn't have it in him to be a franchise QB, Nabers will not change or fix that. On the other hand, if Jones isn't as bad as some people think, an elite QB can really elevate DJ's game. Ultimately, time will tell.
https://x.com/NFLTotalAccess/status/1784652442338197696
Carl Banks addressed his comments (Carl has had his disputes with Ross in the past). Banks pointed out that Ross didn't directly say Daniel Jones was a bad QB. Banks also pointed out, that if Nabers is as advertised, it will definitely help Daniel Jones (along with the other WRs)
Banks also disputed Ross' claim that the Giants drafted Nabers to try and fix Daniel Jones. Banks said that Nabers was drafted because the Giants needed a modern offense, and that starts with at least one elite receiver on your roster. Banks felt Jones was on his own (DJ will sink or swim on his own). If Jones wants to stay with NYG he is going to have to earn it himself. He did suggest he expects and improves Jones, but the key is Jones getting comfortable that his O-line is able to protect him.
I will say that Marc Ross tests one of my core tenets. I have a strong preference for seeking out former NFL people to hear their opinions and views on football. In general, I feel those views and opinions are more valid and tend to be better than other commentators.
Yet, what do I do with someone like Marc Ross, who I witnessed as terrible at his job for 11 years? The man even has a degree from Princeton, so he is certainly not stupid.
To date, I simply take the approach that I take with most of the true experts. Listen to what they have to say (while giving them the benefit of the doubt), but don't take their word as gospel. They need to support and lay out sound arguments for why they hold the opinions they do (especially, hot takes).
I will say, I don't disagree with his assertion big picture. If Jones doesn't have it in him to be a franchise QB, Nabers will not change or fix that. On the other hand, if Jones isn't as bad as some people think, an elite QB can really elevate DJ's game. Ultimately, time will tell.