Quote from: Doc16LT56 on May 21, 2024, 07:17:58 PMYour obsessive agenda with distorting this team's history aside, this is a thread about Nabers' ability to perform despite the QB quality. It's not a referendum on whether the OL will play as poorly or any better than last season.
They brought in a couple of vets and are hoping for good health from Thomas and growth from JMS. The assumption is the OL will be somewhat better. The question is how Nabers will perform assuming the current QBs play below par. Is he QB proof?
Step away from your canned answers and think about the thread's premise for once.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 21, 2024, 07:05:59 PMReally? In his first 3 years, which were his best 3 years, the Giants were 9th in fewest sacks, t4 in fewest sacks, and t3 in fewest sacks. They've never come close to this proficiency in pass blocking in the post-Eli period, during which their league ranking in sacks allowed averaged 26th fewest. Even in OBJ's 2 good years after his injury year the OL was middle of the road, 22nd and 19th - rankings that would mark a huge improvement if they were able to achieve that this year.
Quote from: BluesCruz on May 21, 2024, 12:37:54 PMHope your feeling better Rich
I don't know, he certainly had a very different backstory and college career
Maybe he will be another Tommy DeVito story- who also had a cirtuitous college career.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on May 21, 2024, 07:09:37 PMSee my post above. The OL was nowhere poor in his 3 glory years. League rankings of a top 10 and 2 top 5s in fewest sacks allowed.Your obsessive agenda with distorting this team's history aside, this is a thread about Nabers' ability to perform despite the QB quality. It's not a referendum on whether the OL will play as poorly or any better than last season.
I guess memories are something else that needs to get fact checked, besides the eye test.
Quote from: Philosophers on May 21, 2024, 05:18:47 PMBut not 85 sacks bad and through the roof pressure rates.My real concern is RG. Whoever man's thar spot is between JMS and Neal. Eluemunor has been a significantly better tackle than guard, but I guess he goes to RG, but if we need him for a failed Neal then there is no answer at RG that isn't Stinnie.
If Nabers gets normal NFL time to run a route, he wins in most cases.
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on May 21, 2024, 06:35:47 PMGood point. OBJ was lethal for 3+ years regardless of how poorly the OL played.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 21, 2024, 05:02:36 PMOur O line was never good when OBJ was on the Giants. It has been varying degrees of bad since the 2012 season.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 21, 2024, 05:02:36 PMOur O line was never good when OBJ was on the Giants. It has been varying degrees of bad since the 2012 season.Good point. OBJ was lethal for 3+ years regardless of how poorly the OL played.