Sneaky good day of action today. Including a few games of interest (some have already started):
Syracuse at FSU: Is FSU definitely real? They do have a signature win in having blown out LSU, but that was week one, and they haven't done anything that convincing since. Syracuse is obviously a clear underdog here, but can they give the 'Noles are run for their money?
Indiana at UMich: This should be a blowout, obviously, as Michigan could be the best team in the country. Good opportunity for NFL fans to get eyes on JJ McCarthy, who should be a top three or four QB prospect in the upcoming draft.
Oregon at Wash: Heavyweight Pac-12 battle. Huge implications for the NCAA playoff picture.
Miami at UNC: Intriguing ACC matchup and a chance to look at Drake Maye, another top QB prospect.
USC at ND: ND's loss to Louisville cost them any realistic playoff hopes, but this is still a hugely high profile game and a chance to watch Caleb Williams against a legit defense in a hostile environment.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 14, 2023, 12:37:29 PMSneaky good day of action today. Including a few games of interest (some have already started):
Syracuse at FSU: Is FSU definitely real? They do have a signature win in having blown out LSU, but that was week one, and they haven't done anything that convincing since. Syracuse is obviously a clear underdog here, but can they give the 'Noles are run for their money?
Indiana at UMich: This should be a blowout, obviously, as Michigan could be the best team in the country. Good opportunity for NFL fans to get eyes on JJ McCarthy, who should be a top three or four QB prospect in the upcoming draft.
Oregon at Wash: Heavyweight Pac-12 battle. Huge implications for the NCAA playoff picture.
Miami at UNC: Intriguing ACC matchup and a chance to look at Drake Maye, another top QB prospect.
USC at ND: ND's loss to Louisville cost them any realistic playoff hopes, but this is still a hugely high profile game and a chance to watch Caleb Williams against a legit defense in a hostile environment.
I hope all the heavyweights lose so that if Ole Miss runs the table we are talking playoffs but that's unrealistic so I'll take great football instead.
Excited to watch Maye, Penix, and a few other Qbs today.
Really want to watch Caleb William's against the ND D. I have seen them play a couple of games and I agree their D is legit....the O, not so much.
William's will be playing on the road in weather he probably doesn't play in often.
Full disclosure I have a moneyline bet on USC.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 14, 2023, 02:19:02 PMI hope all the heavyweights lose so that if Ole Miss runs the table we are talking playoffs but that's unrealistic so I'll take great football instead.
Excited to watch Maye, Penix, and a few other Qbs today.
If Ole Miss runs the table and wins the SEC championship I would think they'll get in. That would include a regular season win in Georgia and whoever they beat in the conference championship. They'd be top three if they did that. As you said though that's asking a hell of a lot.
I can't make up my mind on JJ McCarthy. He's obviously a good player, I'm just not sure how good. I am definitely of the view that Williams and Maye (in that order) stand above all the others, but haven't made my mind up on whether McCarthy is my third yet. He might be better off doing another year at Michigan.
Impressive showing here by Arkansas in Bama. Milroe just isn't very good. Neither is Rees as a coordinator. I think Bama will hold on, but this would be an absolutely brutal loss for them if it happened. Arkansas is 2-4 for crying out loud.
If we take Bo Nix at any point in the draft... Schoen should be fired. There's no worse big game QB in college football.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 14, 2023, 02:32:24 PMIf Ole Miss runs the table and wins the SEC championship I would think they'll get in. That would include a regular season win in Georgia and whoever they beat in the conference championship. They'd be top three if they did that. As you said though that's asking a hell of a lot.
I can't make up my mind on JJ McCarthy. He's obviously a good player, I'm just not sure how good. I am definitely of the view that Williams and Maye (in that order) stand above all the others, but haven't made my mind up on whether McCarthy is my third yet. He might be better off doing another year at Michigan.
Yeah Ole Miss would need Alabama to lose twice and I don't think they will to be in the SEC title game. If they do by some chance beat Georgia then not being in the SEC championship game might be a blessing
I think JJ is a really accurate thrower and creator the problem is that Michigan doesn't give him the opportunity to do it enough.
Williams and Maye are the top 2 and Mccarthy, Sanders, and Ewers fighting for 3,4,5.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 14, 2023, 02:32:24 PMIf Ole Miss runs the table and wins the SEC championship I would think they'll get in. That would include a regular season win in Georgia and whoever they beat in the conference championship. They'd be top three if they did that. As you said though that's asking a hell of a lot.
I can't make up my mind on JJ McCarthy. He's obviously a good player, I'm just not sure how good. I am definitely of the view that Williams and Maye (in that order) stand above all the others, but haven't made my mind up on whether McCarthy is my third yet. He might be better off doing another year at Michigan.
Michigan's offensive identity is about long drives and time of possession. Also with the blowouts, JJ is getting taken out at the end of the 3rd Q in every game so his stats are for only about 2 1/2 quarters.
He made some running throws today that definitely got the eye of Schoen, Beane and Lynch. He has gorgeous mechanics and a very live arm. He has a great process of meditating before games so he is always very calm.
That said, I know he can make all the throws. What I want to see more are tight window throws. CBs have not covered the WRs well enough that I've had to see that. Wait til Kalen King and Penn State play Michigan. If he is making completions to Roman Wilson with King covering, that will be telling. King played some games last year where he was noticeably better than Joey Porter, Jr.
The top end QBs are struggling today. Caleb Williams looks mortal against a good defense. Go figure...
3 INTs for Caleb Williams in the first half.
This loaded QB class might be a little light in the pants...
Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 14, 2023, 02:24:37 PMReally want to watch Caleb William's against the ND D. I have seen them play a couple of games and I agree their D is legit....the O, not so much.
William's will be playing on the road in weather he probably doesn't play in often.
Full disclosure I have a moneyline bet on USC.
This has not aged well.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 14, 2023, 08:54:02 PMThis has not aged well.
Lots of time left. If anyone can pull the comeback it's Caleb Williams.
That said he looks off tonight.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 14, 2023, 09:05:25 PMLots of time left. If anyone can pull the comeback it's Caleb Williams.
That said he looks off tonight.
Lack of protection will do that to QBs.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 14, 2023, 02:49:17 PMImpressive showing here by Arkansas in Bama. Milroe just isn't very good. Neither is Rees as a coordinator. I think Bama will hold on, but this would be an absolutely brutal loss for them if it happened. Arkansas is 2-4 for crying out loud.
Arkansas has a good D, their oline and skills are a problem. KJ Jefferson is a guy I'd take a late round flier on and hope he's a Hurts variant. He's big, strong, fast, and has a cannon.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 14, 2023, 09:05:25 PMLots of time left. If anyone can pull the comeback it's Caleb Williams.
That said he looks off tonight.
He's been bad but the play calling has been atrocious. Two runs under a minute to go from midfield?
Not one throw past the LOS inside the 10? Weird stuff.
Caleb had 1 int going into this game vs 28 total tds through the first 5 games.. The guy has never had more than 5 ints in a season in 3 years of football.
This is easily the best class of qbs in a while, one Saturday doesn't change the body of work these guys have.
I try not to look too much at one game, but it's hard to overlook a dropoff in performance with a step up in class.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 14, 2023, 09:33:50 PMI try not to look too much at one game, but it's hard to overlook a dropoff in performance with a step up in class.
I agree completely but they still have Washington, Oregon etc still left so plenty of tape to Guage Williams and others on.
Also Odunze the Washington WR is a legit number 1 Wr.
This has been a very disappointing day of football.
The Washington gsme was exciting but I thought it was poorly coached and the QBs weren't all that cracked up to be.
Pac 12 continues to be an utter joke.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 14, 2023, 09:22:03 PMCaleb had 1 int going into this game vs 28 total tds through the first 5 games.. The guy has never had more than 5 ints in a season in 3 years of football.
This is easily the best class of qbs in a while, one Saturday doesn't change the body of work these guys have.
Williams is getting pressure and not looking as good. Anyone who thinks he'll win behind an existing Giants OL are delusional. Nobody will win.
Very impressed with Notre Dame team defense. Playing really well.
Notre Dame D did a great job against a high powered offense. It's a shame ND couldn't pull that game out against OSU, as they really should have. The Louisville loss was on them as they were simply looking ahead to this game and didn't bring a max focus to that one. I think they're a very good team though that can play with just about anyone in the country. It's a shame their season is pretty much over already (as far as the playoffs go).
As for Williams, I'm still a big believer in his ability. He had a very poor game, but it may have been the best thing for him as he has done nothing but hear about how great he is for the past two years.
It was just one game, will be interesting to see how he responds a week from now.
Still games left and plenty of tape on him. As long as he remains healthy I feel like his draft status at this point is solidified
Quote from: Philosophers on October 14, 2023, 10:38:05 PMWilliams is getting pressure and not looking as good. Anyone who thinks he'll win behind an existing Giants OL are delusional. Nobody will win.
Very impressed with Notre Dame team defense. Playing really well.
This would imply that next years OL is exactly the same. AT and JMS will be back and healthy, they will almost surely add to RG and some depth at minimum. Maybe even LG
A new OL coach may also be in order
Quote from: True Blue on October 15, 2023, 07:46:20 AMThis would imply that next years OL is exactly the same. AT and JMS will be back and healthy, they will almost surely add to RG and some depth at minimum. Maybe even LG
A new OL coach may also be in order
Agreed. No matter who the QB is next year the O line will look different come next September.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 14, 2023, 09:42:12 PMI agree completely but they still have Washington, Oregon etc still left so plenty of tape to Guage Williams and others on.
Really had no idea how different a class those teams are. Pretty much every unit on ND was better than the group they were playing against.
Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 15, 2023, 08:12:01 AMReally had no idea how different a class those teams are. Pretty much every unit on ND was better than the group they were playing against.
Yeah without Caleb Williams USC is a 6-6/7-5 team easily