Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 04, 2024, 11:18:54 AMThere is nothing to resolve if you agree that players are more important than coaches overall. That's all I am saying. If you think coaches are more important than players, or even that the two are equal, then
we can mutually respectfully agree to disagree.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 04, 2024, 11:18:54 AMThere is nothing to resolve if you agree that players are more important than coaches overall. That's all I am saying. If you think coaches are more important than players, or even that the two are equal, then
we can mutually respectfully agree to disagree.
Quote from: kingm56 on May 04, 2024, 10:32:29 AMThis requires further explanation. Are you claiming the HC and OC are part of the problem? If so, can you explain their successes in KC and Buff? I also believe the Giants have some talent that's being hindered by the QB. Is it a coincidence that Robinson started to emerge with the backup QB? Can we also agree that DJ enjoyed playing with a top 3 LT and RB?
His support system was indeed below average; however, you lost me on the coaching aspect. I also think it's a bit of stretch to say his Kitchen was completely bare.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 04, 2024, 11:04:01 AMIf you really want to appreciate the importance of the OC in the grand scheme of things, just compare the 2022 Eagles offense versus the 2023 Eagles offense. Under one OC in 2022, they were 3rd in both points and yards. With essentially the same roster but a new OC, that unit was ranked 7th in points and yards under their new OC.
Still, the debate over the relative importance of coaching versus talent has been going on since football was first invented. So I doubt we will resolve the issue now.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 04, 2024, 11:10:47 AMOBJ is a bit of a journeyman these days.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 04, 2024, 08:49:05 AMIf you have a subscription to the Athletic, I highly recommend their two-part series, finding Rams. The Rams gave a reporter massive access to the Rams process during a season and the article provides great insights. I remember it against "Finding Giants" where my most memorable scene was some old Giants scouting trying to scam free candy from some college football program.
https://theathletic.com/5461276/2024/05/02/nfl-draft-scouting-process-rams-behind-the-scenes/
https://theathletic.com/5468042/2024/05/03/rams-nfl-draft-scouting-behind-the-scenes/