Big Blue Huddle

Highest paid #NFL player for each position:

QB:

- Highest paid: Joe Burrow (55m/year)

- Top 10 average: 47.5m/year

WR:

- Highest paid: AJ Brown (32m/year)

- Top 10 average: 26.6m/year

RB:

- Highest paid: Christian McCaffrey (16m/year)

- Top 10 average: 11m/year

TE:

- Highest paid: Travis Kelce (17m/year)

- Top 10 average: 14.5m/year

LT:

- Highest paid: Laremy Tunsil (25m/year)

- Top 10 average: 20m/year

LG:

- Highest paid: Landon Dickerson (21m/year)

- Top 10 average: 14m/year

C:

- Highest paid: Frank Ragnow (13.5m/year)

- Top 10 average: 10.7m/year

RG:

- Highest paid: Chris Lindstrom (20.5m/year)

- Top 10 average: 13m/year

RT:

- Highest paid: Penei Sewell (28m/year)

- Top 10 average: 19.25m/year



https://x.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1787922091129356796

Early third-round defensive back choice Dru Phillips always seemed destined for Day 2, but a few scouts had a late-first-round grade on him — and one of the reasons was his football acumen. Multiple teams told me Phillips' combine interview was among their very best thanks to his ability to see the game and grasp defensive concepts.

https://www.bigblueview.com/2024/5/7/24151160/report-giants-had-usc-running-back-targeted-in-2024-nfl-draft?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social&utm_content=bigblueview&utm_source=twitter

Dr. Kareem McKenzie looks forward to seeing former teammate Chris Snee help Giants achieve 'new greatness' in scouting role

https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/05/07/kareem-mckenzie-chris-snee-giants-scouting-role/

Quote from: Painter on Today at 02:17:25 PMIf they had said something different, you wouldn't have started this thread- and don't they know it.

Cheers!

In all fairness to Emory Hunt, he has been down on Daniel Jones since he was drafted.  So his latest comments are, at the very least, consistent.

https://x.com/GiantsCRDept/status/1787887382899101855

https://x.com/Schmeelk/status/1787883501049577680

Quote from: T200 on Today at 12:55:37 PMFirst, it's not, "all of *the* sudden..." It's "all of *A* sudden."

Second, when did Daboll "complain about his WRs being too slow"?

Third, the only speedy addition on that list was Nabers.

Fourth, all that speed just means they get out of Jones's comfortable 10-yard throwing window faster.     

I couldn't find the direct quote from Daboll, but I did find this comment from Schoen

Quote"I would say both sides of the ball, just team speed in general. Offense), defense and special teams," he said. "I think we did that with some of the free agents we signed: Parris Campbell can roll, Jeff (Smith) can roll, (Bobby) Okereke runs well. We've upgraded the speed in general; (Darren) Waller. So yeah, that's definitely something watching our team last year, we just felt we needed to get faster in all three phases."

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on Today at 12:42:34 PMYes.

Since I ended up making the question a bit complicated, you are saying "yes" the Giants will ride with Jones in the situation I described?

Does anyone believe if Jones plays like a top 10 QB but the team has a losing season, the Giants will not pursue QB in next year's draft (assuming there is a good one and they are in a realistic position to acquire him).

Shane Bowen All-22 Titans Stream (Saints & Chargers Games)


Bobby Skinner uses All-22 Coaches Film to break down the Giants Defensive Coordinators Shane Bowen's defenses and tendencies.

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 11:40:01 AMJackson was a ballhawk at USC and fairly good his first couple years in the league. The other concern is that Phillips only had five passes defended last year. His last year at USC Jackson had 11. I hope I am pleasantly surprised but I think his career might be close to Darnay Holmes than to Jackson's.

MB,

In Adoree's three years with the Giants he had all of two INTs.  That isn't exactly "ball-hawk" material.  Hell, in his entire 7 year career he has only 4 INTs.

https://x.com/DanSchneierNFL/status/1787864230340788291

Quote from: madbadger on Today at 11:04:14 AMHe is an intriguing prospect but for him to have 0 ints in college is a huge red flag for me. Cedrick Dort, Wisconsin's worst starting cornerback the past 20 years managed to pick off one despite having hands of stone and no ball skills. I don't know how much room there is in the NFL for non ball hawk cover guys there are in the NFL.

The funny thing is that he did have 1 INT, but it was called back due to a penalty (the penalty was not on Phillips).

While I prefer ball-hawks, I have seen DBs who are skilled at preventing completions from doing well.  I think former Giant Adoree Jackson could be an example.

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on Today at 11:00:57 AMIt's a popular topic to get clicks and attention. I think the financial aspect of the injury guarantee in Jones's contract is going to (quietly) be a very important factor in how this shakes out.

If the Giants have an earlier exit from playoff contention, no doubt.

With a quieter time, I have been digging into Shane Bowen.  I am trying to better understand what the Giants got when they drafted Bowen.  I haven't found enough to form a conclusion, so I will share my findings.

Prior Job Performance-  I say this is a mixed bag.  On the one hand, Shane moved up the ranks pretty quickly, which usually indicates that he has impressed people with his knowledge and ability.  In terms of how his unit has performed, it has been mixed.  Overall, it's been the middle of the pack (to the slightly low part of the middle of the pack).  His defenses did well against the run and in the red zone, but his pass defenses were not all that strong.

Education-  While I don't think education is that important to the job, degrees do speak a bit to a coach's general intelligence and work ethic.  On that front, Bowen was named to the Dean's List three times while at Georgia Tech (as a player and a student assistant), earned a Bachelor of Science degree in business management in 2009, and a master's degree in workforce development and education from Ohio State in 2014.

Coaching Mentors-   While Bowen has been heavily supported (and likely influenced by Vrabel, who brought him along with him), Bowen did learn from some solid defensive coaches Jim Schwartz and Dean Pees.  He even spent a little time with Urban Meyer.

Misc-  Bowen was a former LB and Safety and Georgia Tech who had his playing career cut short by a neck issue.


My biggest negative:  He wasn't the team's first choice.   Bowen interviewed for the job he had with the Titans under the new HC and with the Jaguars.  Both teams went in other directions.  He may not have even been the Giants' first choice as he was hired after a couple of the hot candidates the Giants interviewed were hired elsewhere, or the Giants were denied an opportunity to interview.  I will admit that sometimes a quality candidate doesn't interview well, but I think that is a somewhat rare situation.    Another negative, at least in my mind, is that I don't think the DC job was an attractive position.  Between Daboll potentially being on the hot seat, most of the coaching staff being in place, and the issues that caused the prior DC to leave, I can't imagine this was a DC's dream job.


Misc positive-  Shane will have the advantage of having two top-position coaches on his staff, with DB coach Jerome Henderson (who also has the title of passing game coordinator) and D-line coach Andre Patterson.    Having two top-position coaches should help Bowen achieve success.