Big Blue Huddle

 Who are those guys? Is this the same bunch that was on pace to set an NFL record for most sacks allowed?
Is this the same group that couldn't give Daniel Jones any time to throw more than 5 yards?
Did they, all of a sudden, figure out how to block and even open holes for our run game?

Really, what difference a QB who looks down the field and 'gulp' throws it there also?

These can't be the same maligned guys who were the laughingstock of the NFL/

Did Johnson remember how to coach all of a sudden?

Explain this to me, as I am completely befuddled.          

In the first three quarters they were horrible Lenn. If Tommy didn't navigate his way around the pressure he would have been sacked several times and Saquon was getting stuffed and had about two yards per carry until the packer Defense wore down and he had a couple of good runs.

No matter what the O-line has looked like in the past few games, don't be fooled, we still need to find 3 new starters.

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 12, 2023, 05:55:23 PMIn the first three quarters they were horrible Lenn. If Tommy didn't navigate his way around the pressure he would have been sacked several times and Saquon was getting stuffed and had about two yards per carry until the packer Defense wore down and he had a couple of good runs.

I was being a bit sarcastic Ed, but this is the first game all year the OL didn't allow a sack.

Believe it or not, there are many bad offensive lines in the NFL. In fact, there are very few good ones. The QB has to deal with it. It's the current reality.

Quote from: LennG on December 12, 2023, 06:38:02 PMI was being a bit sarcastic Ed, but this is the first game all year the OL didn't allow a sack.

Tommy didn't allow a sack.

Hardly! Any improvement in their usual Division 2 pass blocking was due largely to Devito's faster decision-making, getting rid of the ball quicker and running when he couldn't. And don't let those couple of late game dashes by Barkley fool you as overall the run blocking was actually worse than it has been.

Cheers!

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 12, 2023, 07:17:24 PMTommy didn't allow a sack.

Exactly.

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 12, 2023, 07:17:24 PMTommy didn't allow a sack.

Thank you.

Jets offensive line or Giants? I know my choice and it's not even close

Quote from: LennG on December 12, 2023, 05:35:36 PMWho are those guys? Is this the same bunch that was on pace to set an NFL record for most sacks allowed?
Is this the same group that couldn't give Daniel Jones any time to throw more than 5 yards?
Did they, all of a sudden, figure out how to block and even open holes for our run game?

Really, what difference a QB who looks down the field and 'gulp' throws it there also?

These can't be the same maligned guys who were the laughingstock of the NFL/

Did Johnson remember how to coach all of a sudden?

Explain this to me, as I am completely befuddled.          

The O-line changed the moment Pugh was signed and inserted. He has brought the professionalism, leadership and stability many felt he would.

There was a particular run where Barkley ran right into a defender but the hole to the left was enormous last night, he just didn't see it. Pugh has likely had a major impact on JMS as well.

The bigger question is why did it take so long to recognize his need.

Quote from: Ed Vette on December 12, 2023, 05:55:23 PMIn the first three quarters they were horrible Lenn. If Tommy didn't navigate his way around the pressure he would have been sacked several times and Saquon was getting stuffed and had about two yards per carry until the packer Defense wore down and he had a couple of good runs.

Ed: Just wanted to repeat in capital letters... IN THE FIRST THREE QUARTERS THEY WERE HORRIBLE. Bob

Thomas coming back helped a bunch along with Pugh.

Quote from: Painter on December 12, 2023, 07:17:42 PMHardly! Any improvement in their usual Division 2 pass blocking was due largely to Devito's faster decision-making, getting rid of the ball quicker and running when he couldn't. And don't let those couple of late game dashes by Barkley fool you as overall the run blocking was actually worse than it has been.

Cheers!

I also think by 4th quarter the Packers defense became more cautious of DeVito keeping the ball and that could have helped Barkley too.

I am worried about the volume of hits DeVito is taking on either a sack or a run.  At least he has some more control when he takes off and is brought down ahead of the line of scrimmage instead of behind it.  That alone probably added a ton of net yardage to the offense compared to the last couple of games.  Maybe as the game slows down for him and gels more with WRs he'll get more passes off without taking a hit.  Once defenses adjust to his scramble threat it's going to open opportunities elsewhere (e.g. more time in pocket, easier runs for the RB, openings in the secondary).

Curious that Daboll gave a game ball to the OL when they were leaky again in pass protection (saved by DeVito) and stoned in the run game for 3 quarters. They had some  success on the edge with Wan"Dale..and the Pack got fooled by a DeVito run design. But Barkley went nowhere..twice on short yardage

They weren't horrendous..but still in need of 3 new starters and coach. 69 sacks on the year given up is mind boggling bad. Schmitz return and play helps..okay.