Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: uconnjack8 on Today at 10:14:51 AMBecause he said he wants more money and skipped a voluntary workout.

I get that, but we've had players do that it the past many times and forumites rush to thier defense in reminding us that it's a "voluntary" workout.

If you value explosiveness and don't mind overstocking a position, why not take Troy Franklin out of Oregon as another WR.  Explosive piece.  If he's the best out there and if the Eagles were loaded up at WR, they'd still take him.  Can't have enough BPA pieces either.

Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 09:29:49 AMI read that the Giants do not want to play Mills at safety but to have him as a more versatile piece at CB.  That left only Pinnock and Belton so the need was obvious for safety.  Phillips drafted for primarily slot but also outside on occasion is as much about his physicality as it is about his versatility. 

I really like what I saw from Pinnock and the Great Dane last year. The team really missed Love however

Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 09:02:50 AMWhy is everyone so obsessed with trading Slayton?

Because he said he wants more money and skipped a voluntary workout.

I think his stretch the field ability makes him a decent piece of an offense.  Ita not an accident he's been among league leaders in yards/reception pretty much every year.

Regardless, I don't understand the infatuation with trading him.

Quote from: madbadger on April 26, 2024, 10:29:52 PMComing into the draft the defense had three holes. DT, CB and safety. On offense we neeed
What do I want? I want a F-ing offense that isn't a complete embarrassment for a 10th year in a row. The Giants have three young corners. How about we wait to see how the develop before drafting another one that didn't have a single interception during his time in college. Listen he's Giant now so I hope he's successful but when you have an offensive minded coach you might want to play to his strengths. Frankly I'm just pissed at the prospect of watching our defense put the team in a position to win only to lose because we can put points on the board.

If the QB does his job and plays to the level his salary mandates and can stay healthy then you will get your wish. He has an Oline, he has a #1 and (2) #1A type WR, and he has one maybe (2) TE who can make plays. It's on him now.

As for RB, we will see how valuable the position is in 2024 terms. I believe they're a dime a dozen. The Jets made a splash with Adams last year and where is he now?...he didn't exactly light the place up. Let's see what happens we may be pleasantly surprised.

The other thing is our defense is not going to be blitz only anymore so maybe grabbing young defense players will turn out to be a smart thing.

I am still a bit uncomfortable with our kicking game. Maybe that sounds strange but Gano now makes me nervous and the Scottish Hammer is all over the place.

If I were him, I would do everything I could to get out of Dodge. If he was on a better team with a QB who could get the ball downfield he would easily be a 1000 yard receiver. Josh Allen would love him.

Now, he's just an insurance policy.

Pretty much knew this was coming when they went to 17 games. 

I do like the idea of a Holiday weekend Super Bowl.

Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 09:52:00 AMOK thanks for explaining that. 🙂

You know he's only 20?

I'm well aware of that. I'm an a University of Wisconsin alum/booster. He graduated high school a year early with the hopes of being Wisconsin's starting strong safety as a freshman. Was converted to running back due to a rash of injuries as a freshman. He played really well and ran hard and then thought it would be a great idea to add 25 pounds to his NFL frame. He hasn't been the same player since often chosing to dance in the hole and getting dropped for no gain instead of picking up four yards.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 08:13:54 AMI get the bewilderment over the seeming focus on defense, but I feel like sometimes things just unfold the way they unfold in drafts, and you try to play the hand you're dealt in as advantageous a way as you can. Free agency is where you have more control, and the Giants clearly made offensive line a focal point in free agency. Yes, they also picked up a very expensive defensive player, but that was a cornerstone piece, and there aren't many occasions where you can get a 25 year old genuine star without giving up a 1, which is what the Giants managed to do there. The rest of free agency was all about offense (O line, TE, and RB), and they used their most valuable pick by far on offense.

I don't think they should have used a top 50 pick on a running back this year. I don't mind doing that if the team is better, but we just have too many other needs, and RB is a position that can be addressed in rounds three through five most years. Should we have taken one in the third round? Perhaps, but corner is a big need, and corner is not a day three position whereas RB can be.

I'm not saying what the Giants have done is perfect by any means or that it won't later be proven that they made mistakes, but I don't think you can go into a draft with a strict positional plan beyond the first round and really beyond the top 10. Stuff happens in drafts that you can't plan for, and good GMs are the ones who have different plans for different situations, not ones who are stuck on one gameplan and just take whatever player they can find to fit that exact gameplan, even if it's a reach.

Thank you for taking the time to write up this lucid, sensible post. Well done!

Peace!

He won't stop chasing a buck until 50% of his former players are dead by the age of 40. With all that we know about the impact of head injuries you'd think that they'd be looking for ways to shorten the season instead of adding more.