Big Blue Huddle

https://www.ww2online.org/view/john-jack-moran#early-life-to-tiger-tanks

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 12:03:35 PMThe Giants were 3-3 last year when DeVito started and 3-7 when he didn't. He also had the best QB rating of any Giant QB last year at 89.2. I personally don't think he will make the opening day 53, but he deserves the opportunity to at least compete in camp and the preseason.

Don't forget the Giants also signed Nathan Rourke, so we need to see how he figures into all this.

They have four QBs. Assuming Jones is healthy enough, he will be the starter, and then of the remaining three one will be the backup, one will likely be on the PS, and one will likely be sent packing. We'll see what happens.

Jeff,

Do you think DeVito would make it onto or last on the PS?

https://x.com/bigbluevcr/status/1794533917145620700?s=61&t=RhLqKLKssFU2uI0Nr0nfxQ

.... Grocery prices – 47%
Politicians – 41%
Someone else's driving/driving habits – 29%
Crowds – 23%
Weather – 21%
Customer service – 19%
Social media trends – 17%
Tipping culture – 16%
Music you don't like – 15%
TV volume being too loud – 15%
Ticket prices (concerts/events) – 14%
Products locked behind plastic on the shelves – 14%
AI – 14%
Reality TV – 14%
Self-checkouts – 13%
Computer issues – 13%
Tech billionaires – 12%
Parking – 10%
Movies being too dark – 9%
Text language/abbreviations – 8%

https://talkerresearch.com/20-things-that-americans-find-annoying-about-modern-life/

Quote:
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
Tommy DeVito looked a lot closer to QB2 than QB3 today.

Again, it's an OTA in May.

But I wouldn't be running DeVito off this team so quickly. #NYGiants


Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
I thought Tommy DeVito was far & away the best QB at practice today. #Giants

Daniel Jones didn't do team drills*

NEW YORK GIANTS: QB DANIEL JONES

There might not be a more polarizing player in the league than Jones and his four-year, $160 million contract. Suffering a neck injury and an ACL tear before Week 9 last year didn't help his case.

Jones' 63.0 overall grade in 2023 was the lowest in his NFL tenure, and he was very hot or cold throughout the season. His games at Arizona and Miami were outstanding, but he struggled mightily against Las Vegas, Dallas and Seattle. Nonetheless, Jones was still a strong runner all around, putting forth a second straight year with a running grade of 82.2 or better.

The former No. 6 overall might not be a world-beater this year, but expect more consistency than he exhibited a year ago. If nothing else, his 4.1% turnover-worthy play rate will probably look more like it did from 2020-22. Adding Malik Nabers to the fray is a reason to project upward trends.



https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-bounce-back-candidates-all-32-nfl-teams-2024

NEW YORK GIANTS: B+

New York's best move this offseason was trading for Brian Burns, forming a legit defensive line trio with Kayvon Thibodeaux and Dexter Lawrence.

They lost Xavier McKinney and Saquon Barkley but reunited head coach Brian Daboll with running back Devin Singletary to quell the sting of Barkley's departure. They also added a handful of offensive linemen in a much-needed overhaul.

I was a big fan of the Giants draft, as Malik Nabers, Tyler Nubin and Andru Phillips are impact players. They weren't able to change their quarterback situation, but that wasn't totally in their control.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2024-offseason-grades-for-all-32-nfl-teams#NYG

I found a good article at the The Athletic (pay wall).   It doesn't sound like teaching is a strength.  Its not a weakness but it wouldn't be among his strengths.  His strengths are relationships with players, creativity, and collaboration.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2324003/2021/01/15/brian-daboll-bills-coaching/

Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 08:31:51 AMIt would be coming from players, and other coaches. Good point, Rich. I don't think Josh Allen has given him any credit, has he?

I don't recall Allen talking about Daboll, in terms of his development.  I have only heard him mention his private coach.  Although, admittedly, I don't follow Josh Allen that closely.

"In the blink of an eye, everything can be taken away," Price wrote on Instagram. "On April 24th I had emergency pulmonary embolism surgery to remove a saddle clot that was entering both of my lungs. As a healthy 29-year-old, an unprovoked pulmonary embolism with no further medical explanation is terrifying. I am truly thankful to be alive today.

"Unfortunately, I will be retiring from the NFL as the risk of an internal bleed while on blood thinners creates tremendous risk."

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/05/26/ex-new-york-giants-billy-price-retires-from-nfl-after-life-saving-surgery/?taid=6652feed1787b80001911f59&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 07:57:48 AMI went back and looked at various lists of the best CBs of the 2000s and 2010s. I couldn't find one below 185 and the vast majority were, as @MightyGiants noted earlier in the thread, somewhere in the 190-210 range.

There have clearly been CBs under 180 in the NFL and are now, but it's a small group, and, based on the moderate amount of backward looking I did, the group does not appear to include any who were distinctly above average.

I think the statement that size (including weight) matters much more for CBs than it does for WRs was a pretty accurate one based on the evidence.

I was just watching Greg Cosell's video (I believe I posted it here this week), in which he discusses two ways to play press coverage. A CB can jam the receiver, or he can play up close and immediately mirror. At Flott's size, I would assume he will be pushing for the latter.   

I think where the size hurts more is in run support.


Here are Flott's PFF grades for his defensive efforts on 519 snaps

53.3 overall (he had a higher grade of 67.8 in 2022 on 338 snaps mostly driven by a higher coverage grade)

49.2 run defense

39.9 tackling

41.7 pass rush

59.4 coverage

QBs had a 95.6 rating when targeting Flott

The weekend has finally giving me some down time.   I am reading Mike Lombardi's Football Done Right.   He was reviewing the greatest coaches in NFL history.   Being a good teacher is a common thread among the greats.  Other traits varied, but most have this trait in common.   I really haven't heard much about Daboll's teaching skills.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 25, 2024, 07:21:57 PMWho are the best NFL CBs in somewhat recent times (say the last 20 yrs) who were lighter than 180 lbs?

Can someone provide three or four recognizable names?

This article covers lightest current CBs

https://hortonbarbell.com/average-height-and-weight-of-an-nfl-cornerback/

Quote from: Rosehill Jimmy on May 25, 2024, 12:33:26 PMI'm guessing it still doesn't account for the correct spot

That's what I am thinking, the official still needs to spot the ball.   I can't think of a current technology that could determine where the ball is when the runner is down.   The location of the ball is easy, it's their down part that is the challenge.