I read a few feeds that Daboll wants to quit in January.
Any other murmurs about this?
I don't want him to leave.
Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on December 22, 2023, 05:14:32 PMI read a few feeds that Daboll wants to quit in January.
Any other murmurs about this?
I don't want him to leave.
Can you provide links to articles or tweets/videos from credible sources?
That would be really weird and unfortunately if true would confirm our worst fears about Mara Meddling.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 22, 2023, 05:16:19 PMCan you provide links to articles or tweets/videos from credible sources?
I'm trying to figure out if they're credible. I'm Googling now.
I think the notification came from GMEN HQ or something like that.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on December 22, 2023, 05:22:51 PMI'm trying to figure out if they're credible. I'm Googling now.
I think the notification came from GMEN HQ or something like that.
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I found this under the rumors section of GMen HQ. Maybe this is what you saw?
https://gmenhq.com/posts/giants-rumors-brian-daboll-could-actually-clean-house-this-offseason-01hgsdtk2m3m
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 22, 2023, 05:42:16 PMI found this under the rumors section of GMen HQ. Maybe this is what you saw?
https://gmenhq.com/posts/giants-rumors-brian-daboll-could-actually-clean-house-this-offseason-01hgsdtk2m3m
This makes a lot more sense because this season's setbacks should create a sense of urgency to make the moves away from players and coaches both Daboll and Schoen agree have no future with the type of team their future state is supposed to look like.
If it means the end of the line for Wink, I have mixed feelings but hope Daboll has someone in mind who offers a higher ceiling of opportunity.
Next year will look very different and it will be interesting to see whom they bring in to get on track.
Peace!
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 22, 2023, 05:42:16 PMI found this under the rumors section of GMen HQ. Maybe this is what you saw?
https://gmenhq.com/posts/giants-rumors-brian-daboll-could-actually-clean-house-this-offseason-01hgsdtk2m3m
Yeah that was the article, but there was a "click bait" on the FB timeline that read. "Daboll looking to quit in January"
When you click through it was the link you shared that opened up.
Sorry about that.
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Quote from: TONKA56 on December 22, 2023, 05:17:13 PMThat would be really weird and unfortunately if true would confirm our worst fears about Mara Meddling.
how so?
Quote from: B1GBLUE on December 23, 2023, 07:32:33 AMhow so?
Clearly it turned out to be an unfounded rumor.
However, if it were true IMO it would be because who would want to leave a flagship franchise one year removed from being COTY?
The answers could range anywhere from having to a medical staff that you don't approve of, to having a QB forced down your throat.
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If true, then
IT'S a FESTIVUS MIRACLE.
And I'm going out to buy my aluminum pole before they run out.
I can see Belichick becoming our GM/HC
OR Wink becoming HC and Daboll and Kafka out
Daboll is too timid in his play calling and not very inspiring for the whole team....a kind of deadpan guy like Judge. Both were are "Bill" wannabes but there is only one Belichick
most likely Daboll gets another year though
Why would anyone want Belichick currently?
Quote from: BluesCruz on December 23, 2023, 12:28:46 PMI can see Belichick becoming our GM/HC
OR Wink becoming HC and Daboll and Kafka out
Daboll is too timid in his play calling and not very inspiring for the whole team....a kind of deadpan guy like Judge. Both were are "Bill" wannabes but there is only one Belichickgets another year though
most likely Daboll
I don't think Daboll is a timid play caller, I think we had a QB who was too timid to choose the deeper routes in the pattern.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 23, 2023, 01:58:14 PMWhy would anyone want Belichick currently?
We need a HC who has "been there before". Daboll has never been a HC, nor Judge, nor Big Ben
need to bring in a Pro or a "Profi" as they would say in Germany
Quote from: BluesCruz on December 23, 2023, 04:00:27 PMWe need a HC who has "been there before". Daboll has never been a HC, nor Judge, nor Big Ben
need to bring in a Pro or a "Profi" as they would say in Germany
Lol Belichick is an antique. He was one of the greatest hcs in football but the game has passed him by now. Still a great DC, but as a HC or Gm absolutely not.
Look at all the successful organizations right now, they all have HCs that took said jobs only having been an OC previously. The only exception0s being SEA, DET, and BUF who have defensive minded head coaches.
Belichick hasn't drafted, or signed a decent player in 5 years. We've been to the playoffs and won more games in the past two years. So why? Yes Belichick has been there before with 1 guy, and hasn't been the same before or after that guy left.
You're simply wanting to sign the name, and that does nothing for the Giants.
If you gave most the option between Daboll/schoen and Belichick right now I think logical prevails and Dabs is the easy answer.
Part of the "rumor" I may believe is Mara protecting guys like Barkley and Jones..Ronnie Barnes etc... to the detriment of the team and very possibly irritating Dabs about his team's direction.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on December 23, 2023, 06:20:03 PMPart of the "rumor" I may believe is Mara protecting guys like Barkley and Jones..Ronnie Barnes etc... to the detriment of the team and very possibly irritating Dabs about his team's direction.
If Mara is so happy with Jones and Barkley why did he fire Gettleman? They are the cornerstones of his tenure here as GM.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 23, 2023, 06:36:56 PMIf Mara is so happy with Jones and Barkley why did he fire Gettleman? They are the cornerstones of his tenure here as GM.
Technically, Gettleman "retired"....so he wasn't actually fired. Despite so many of us who wanted that to be the case.
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Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on December 23, 2023, 07:06:59 PMTechnically, Gettleman "retired"....so he wasn't actually fired. Despite so many of us who wanted that to be the case.
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You actually believe he could have remained the GM after the 2021 season if he wanted to?
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 23, 2023, 07:28:00 PMYou actually believe he could have remained the GM after the 2021 season if he wanted to?
I can only hope that Mara was knowledgeable and courageous enough to pull the trigger and fire him had DG decided he wanted to stay.
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"We've done everything possible to mess this poor guy up"
As for Ronnie Barnes he must have compromising pictures or something
Barkley is the "Face of the Franchise". Are you serious??
Question- If Belechick does return will he be able to shed Jones, 1.7 yds Barkley, and Ronnie? :what:
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!
MY NEW YEARS WISH- THE END OF WAR. Talk it out guys
Daboll is learning how to be a HC. He was excellent last year showing flashes of creativity and presence. He has been terrible this year, failing to create any unity of purpose in the building or hold things fully together in tough times. He will and should get a year 3 for him and us to see if he can learn from year two and take a step forward. I suspect it will be an attempted turnaround he takes on with wholesale staff changes.
Quote from: Jclayton92 link=msg=931234 date=1703366150
Lol Belichick is an antique. He was one of the greatest hcs in football but the game has passed him by now.
/quote]
J: The math is easy... [head coach] + Tom Brady = good. [Head coach] - Tom Brady = not-so-good. Bob
And they said math was a tough subject...
:what:
Bob
Quote from: Bob In PA on December 26, 2023, 03:59:05 PM[quote author=Jclayton92 link=msg=931234 date=1703366150
Lol Belichick is an antique. He was one of the greatest hcs in football but the game has passed him by now.
J: The math is easy... [head coach] + Tom Brady = good. [Head coach] - Tom Brady = not-so-good. Bob
And they said math was a tough subject...
:what:
Bob
I agree lol we are on the same page I was just asking Bc Why he would want any part of that.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 23, 2023, 01:58:14 PMWhy would anyone want Belichick currently?
The bigger question is that at the age of 73 would he be willing to go back to just being a head coach and relinquishing final say over personnel decisions? I don't think he would and I think the NY media would eat him and his surely attitude alive.
Quote from: madbadger on December 26, 2023, 04:08:25 PMThe bigger question is that at the age of 73 would he be willing to go back to just being a head coach and relinquishing final say over personnel decisions? I don't think he would and I think the NY media would eat him and his surely attitude alive.
Yeah he likely goes to San Diego with all the retirees.
Quote from: londonblue on December 26, 2023, 11:17:11 AMDaboll is learning how to be a HC. He was excellent last year showing flashes of creativity and presence. He has been terrible this year, failing to create any unity of purpose in the building or hold things fully together in tough times. He will and should get a year 3 for him and us to see if he can learn from year two and take a step forward. I suspect it will be an attempted turnaround he takes on with wholesale staff changes.
He will be on the hot seat next year. I'm sure he will plead with Schoen to get him a QB. If they don't upgrade at the most important position, the chances of success for both Daboll and Schoen will be pretty much diminished and it will be Daboll's last year. They cannot go into 2024 with the QB's they currently have.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 26, 2023, 04:11:18 PMYeah he likely goes to San Diego with all the retirees.
If he decides to go to California, while nearly everyone else in California is leaving in droves, do you really think that's the place people go to retire? Especially an east coast guy like Belichick? Especially the ownership of San Diego producing a stable workplace.
I don't see it happening because Parcells taught Belichick well in terms of taking jobs with questionable owners in terms of stability and vision.
I think he retires from coaching and might try a front office role, a consultant role or retire outright and play golf in Nantucket with Parcells while talking the old days.
Peace!
I actually think Belichick ends up with the Commanders. Just a hunch. I know it makes sense on many levels for him to go to the Chargers, and it's clearly possible, but my money is on him landing in Washington. It will be a better pay package, and I suspect he will be afforded more control.
The Chargers are a pretty weak, no frills organization. The owner doesn't have the best reputation. Not to mention Belichick to me is the antithesis of an LA guy.
There is more to this decision than just the incumbent roster.
Quote from: kartanoman on December 26, 2023, 04:35:13 PMIf he decides to go to California, while nearly everyone else in California is leaving in droves, do you really think that's the place people go to retire? Especially an east coast guy like Belichick? Especially the ownership of San Diego producing a stable workplace.
I don't see it happening because Parcells taught Belichick well in terms of taking jobs with questionable owners in terms of stability and vision.
I think he retires from coaching and might try a front office role, a consultant role or retire outright and play golf in Nantucket with Parcells while talking the old days.
Peace!
I was just joking as The Chargers are now in LA the biggest fair weather Fandom in the country. They should have stayed in San Diego because of all of the retirees. A majority of San Diego is made up of Retired people and Navy Personnel.
I just don't know what other jobs will be open outside San Diego, maybe Washington but Washington is the place were coaches go to get ruined.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 26, 2023, 05:41:42 PMI was just joking as The Chargers are now in LA the biggest fair weather Fandom in the country. They should have stayed in San Diego because of all of the retirees. A majority of San Diego is made up of Retired people and Navy Personnel.
I just don't know what other jobs will be open outside San Diego, maybe Washington but Washington is the place were coaches go to get ruined.
New owner.
Quote from: katkavage on December 26, 2023, 04:30:35 PMHe will be on the hot seat next year. I'm sure he will plead with Schoen to get him a QB. If they don't upgrade at the most important position, the chances of success for both Daboll and Schoen will be pretty much diminished and it will be Daboll's last year. They cannot go into 2024 with the QB's they currently have.
Hopefully Mara stays out of it. If you recall MacAdoo pleaded with the FO to trade up for Mahomes, but nooooo. The Head Coach needs to have his own QB. Period!