Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Painter on May 09, 2024, 01:07:51 PMIf you think I was discourteous to you, you have no idea what that means. As for ill-will, call it what you like, but you also seem confused as to whom, what and why I have been critical. Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps, that's just as well.

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I was pointing to when you threw out the label, gratuitous and mean spirited beneath what is a Giants fan

Quote from: TONKA56 on May 09, 2024, 03:21:58 PMI guess I'm wrong then but he certainly looked more aware of the backside rushers, where pressure was coming from, and when to escape the pocket and take what he could.  Why do you say the line was better? Based on availability?

Andrew Thomas.  Justin Pugh.  Playing together for a while compared to the pre-season merry-go-round Johnson did in the pre-season.

This is why I never trust anyone's eye test without some sort of statistical confirmation.

Realistically and objectively right now he is, being generous, 21 out of 32. Which means a really good year for him only gets him to 15 or 16 while a few currently in front of him drop. That's his ceiling.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on May 09, 2024, 05:04:27 PMPerhaps nobody. But i wouldn't take take Young over Jones.

Perhaps I'm wrong. But he shouldn't be last.

I think Darnold is likely to start the season in Minny, and Jones is definitely better than Darnold, at least in my eyes.

He may also be better than Brissett. Is he definitely, 100%, decisively better than Brissett? Possibly, but I'm not sure. I'd say probably, but I don't think it's some runaway, obvious thing.

He is very likely better than some of these incoming rookies, but we don't know that for sure yet, nor do we know which ones.

The rest of the QBs on this list, I'm sorry, but I don't see the evidence that Jones is clearly better than them. Could that change this year? Sure it could - these rankings are fluid. But right here, right now, I'm just not sure that that's the case.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 09, 2024, 04:59:09 PMI'm not really disagreeing, but just as an exercise, and bearing in mind that incoming rookies are clearly a speculative projection in this, which QBs in this list have proven to be decisively worse besides Bryce Young?

Perhaps nobody. But i wouldn't take take Young over Jones.

Perhaps I'm wrong. But he shouldn't be last.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 09, 2024, 04:47:31 PMNot sure why yellow was such a problem for me.

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Yellow, Green, and Blue are the same difficulty level and type. Yellow is rarely my first match.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on May 09, 2024, 04:43:13 PMI'm no Jones apologist but dead last is laughable.

I won't even give them a click.

I'm not really disagreeing, but just as an exercise, and bearing in mind that incoming rookies are clearly a speculative projection in this, which QBs in this list have proven to be decisively worse besides Bryce Young?

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Not sure why yellow was such a problem for me.

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You can't rank those who never played a down in the NFL. I made my own rankings and had him at 21.