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Godammit, when do we sign someone we can actually be excited about? So sick of these baragain bin players for full price.  Great Day One: We lose Barkley and McKinny and pick up a "serviceable" Guard.  F&%$#! 

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 02, 2024, 10:05:43 AMConsider that Schoen's plan was for this team to have an elite O-line with

All-Pro Andrew Thomas at LT
High-rounder Josh Ezeudu at LG providing solid play
Second-rounder JMS, being the elite anchor in the middle of the line
Glowinski providing a solid but unspectacular play at RG
High pick Evan Neal was supposed to play at Pro Bowl level

The pair of elite OTs would have been negating all edge rushers without double-team

DJ was supposed to have tons of time, which would have made the receivers look far more talented.  Receivers always look better at 5 Mississippi than 3 Mississippi

Barkley was supposed to have an All-Pro season behind the powerful elite O-line

The offensive power would have helped the defense by requiring them to play far less.


Instead, the Giants ended up with one of the worst O-lines (if not the worst lines) last season due to poor play and mismanaged injuries (how does AT miss two months for a hamstring injury that didn't even take him out of the game?!?!)

Had the O-line played like the draft capital invested (two high ones, a 2nd rounder and a high 3rd rounder) would have expected it to play, we would be having a very different conversation this off-season.

Fully agree!  And Peart and Lemieux were supposed to be at least competent depth, as well. When you look at our recent history (going back to Flowers) of drafting OLs, I feel like Thomas was sheer luck!

It's hard to have any faith that we can draft a decent OL.  Other than Thomas, we seem to suck at picking talent.  Peart, Lemieux, Ezeudu and Neal (7th overall, no less!) come to mind.  And now I'm worried about Schmitz!  To say he "struggled" is an understatement.  Somehow, he hasn't been put under the same microscope as Neal but he's just as big a concern. 

That said....fck it, draft Alt at 6, try Neal inside, hope Schmitz improves and for the love of God, sign a few competent Free Agent OLs, guys with tape, guys who you KNOW can play.  Then hope this new OL coach knows wtf he's doing.   

If we pick McCarthy at 6, I will be needing a new TV.  I can't even imagine that's a consideration. 

Many of those above but the first RB I really remember is Phil King.

There are certain times I know who the author is just by reading the headline. This was one of those times.

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 07, 2024, 01:56:12 PMLarry, a few thoughts:

1)  I am already seeing popular mocks with JJ going anywhere from 12 - 18.  So it's not unrealistic to think he couldn't end up top 10

2) Not addressing an issue is but an option, and like all the other options, it comes with risk.   Daboll may not see a season 4 if Jones pulls an Aaron Rodgers and suffers another neck injury on his third play, and the season is kneecapped before it can start.

OK, if I untangle that triple negative correctly, you're saying he realistically could wind up in the top 10.  Right?   

Quote from: MightyGiants on February 06, 2024, 08:20:22 AMI listened to a few podcasts this morning.  Pat Traina interviewed a beat reporter for the Titans, and Nick and Dan went over the Xs and Os.   Some thoughts/points

1)  He's young, 37, with room to grow and improve

2)  He ran a bend but don't break defense that struggled between the 20s but did well in the red zone

3)  With the Titans he gave his DBs too much freedom

4)  He had Jim Schwartz as a consultant when he was in Tenessee. That's a pretty good DC to learn from

5)  With Schartz and Vabrel overseeing him, we don't know what he will do now that he is free to run his own defense as the true top man

6) He is likely to bring his own outside LB coach, Ryan Crow, to the team.  Crow did a pretty good job developing edge talent

7) He was described by the beat reporter as a good but not a great coach

8) From all I heard he reminds me of Patrick Graham

I involuntarily cringed and groaned when I hit this one.  "Bend but don't break" is right up there with "prevent" in my list of things I hate.  DBs giving 10 yard cushions on 3rd and 7 and we spend all year hoping to "hold them to three".  Great.

Just hope we're not the opponent.  Guessing it'll be the Packers. 

Hard to get excited about this hire when you know he was no better than the 3rd or 4th choice.  All we can say is, "we'll see". 

If true, this says a few things.  1) the Giants aren't interested in any of the QBs after the top two or three - or maybe one.  2) they believe all will be off the board by 6.  3) trading up is not worth the cost. 4) drafting a QB lower is, in all probability, wasting a pick that could be better spent elsewhere.

I tend to agree.

There are three QBs worth taking high and JJ clearly is not one of them.  Even taking him in the 2nd round would reek of desperation.  When you draft a QB, you want it to be with confidence, not hope. Even the top guys have uncertainty.  Drafting a QB lower is akin to buying a lottery ticket......and we're in no position to waste draft picks on a lottery ticket or hitching the next few seasons to a prayer.   

Please, God, NO!  I don't want him at 6, I don't want him at 106!  I watched a lot of Michigan football and never came away from a game thinking JJ was the reason they won.  I want a QB but I'll stick with DJ before taking a flyer on JJ.

My loyalties lie strictly with my pool picks.  I have the 49ers winning and covering, 34-24.  I see the 9er running game being too much for GB, leading to lots of points and the Pack O can't quite keep up.