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The Giants are expected to receive a 2025 4th round comp pick for McKinney

Started by shadowspinner0, May 03, 2024, 11:16:51 PM

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shadowspinner0

Lance Zierlein article from NFL.com:
QuoteProjected compensatory pick: One in Round 4.

Key free-agent losses: Xavier McKinney (Packers), Saquon Barkley (Eagles), A'Shawn Robinson (Panthers), Tyrod Taylor (Jets), Ben Bredeson (Buccaneers).

Key free-agent additions: Jon Runyan Jr., Devin Singletary, Drew Lock, Jermaine Eluemunor.



McKinney should qualify the Giants for a fourth-round pick, while the other four losses are canceled out by comparable free-agent signings.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-compensatory-pick-projections-for-every-team

Trench

So McKinney and Saquon are only worth a single 4th round pick?....wow

H-Town G-Fan

Quote from: Trench on May 03, 2024, 11:35:41 PMSo McKinney and Saquon are only worth a single 4th round pick?....wow

You're forgetting the offsetting that occurs when the Giants signed players. Runyon effectively cancelled out Saquon with a similar AAV.

MightyGiants

Quote from: H-Town G-Fan on May 04, 2024, 01:12:32 AMYou're forgetting the offsetting that occurs when the Giants signed players. Runyon effectively cancelled out Saquon with a similar AAV.

This! it's not just who a team loses but who the team signs.  That's why the Giants would have been far better-served trading Saquan and McKinney last season at the deadline than letting them walk.
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DaveBrown74

It really is ridiculous that we didn't trade Saquon. Given the contract he ultimately commanded, there is almost zero doubt we would have gotten substantially more than this in a trade. We had no chance of contending, and we had no intention of signing him. What a waste to have it pan out this way instead of getting at least a third in a trade. Not to mention we might have been picking higher than sixth if we did that.

Very foolish.

uconnjack8

Just a note, that calculation is preliminary.   If, for example, McKinney gets hurt in camp and doesn't play next season, there would be no comp pick awarded (pretty sure aboutbthat).

MightyGiants

Quote from: uconnjack8 on May 04, 2024, 08:31:24 AMJust a note, that calculation is preliminary.   If, for example, McKinney gets hurt in camp and doesn't play next season, there would be noncompliance pick awarded (pretty sure aboutbthat).

Very true, player performances are part of the comp formula
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Stringer Bell

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 04, 2024, 07:10:57 AMThis! it's not just who a team loses but who the team signs.  That's why the Giants would have been far better-served trading Saquan and McKinney last season at the deadline than letting them walk.

The assumption that there was a willing trade partner looking to trade draft assets for an oft-injured RB on an expiring contract is not a good one.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2024, 10:07:54 AMThe assumption that there was a willing trade partner looking to trade draft assets for an oft-injured RB on an expiring contract is not a good one.

Did you see what Barkley was paid? 
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Doc16LT56

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 04, 2024, 10:09:05 AMDid you see what Barkley was paid? 
Yep. There was absolutely a market for Barkley. Not trading him during the season seemed odd. In hindsight it looks even worse.

Stringer Bell

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 04, 2024, 10:09:05 AMDid you see what Barkley was paid? 

I did. What does that have to do with a team's willingness to give up draft picks AND pay him?

Stringer Bell

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on May 04, 2024, 10:15:34 AMYep. There was absolutely a market for Barkley. Not trading him during the season seemed odd. In hindsight it looks even worse.

This is one of the biggest blind spots for arm chair GMs. There being a market for someone jn getting a contract and there being a market for someone willing to trade draft picks and pay a guy are 2 completely different things.

Doc16LT56

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2024, 11:42:59 AMThis is one of the biggest blind spots for arm chair GMs.
Unlike you. A REAL general manager. You have special insights no doubt. Smh.

MightyGiants

Quote from: Stringer Bell on May 04, 2024, 11:42:59 AMThis is one of the biggest blind spots for arm chair GMs. There being a market for someone jn getting a contract and there being a market for someone willing to trade draft picks and pay a guy are 2 completely different things.

Are you suggesting you are coming from the perspective of an actual or former NFL GM?  ;)


A player like Barkley had value for a team in the playoff hunt looking to get an edge by boosting their running game down the home stretch
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Stringer Bell

Quote from: Doc16LT56 on May 04, 2024, 11:45:08 AMUnlike you. A REAL general manager. You have special insights no doubt. Smh.

Give me a break. I'm not the one claiming that a mistake was made when there is 0 evidence to suggest there was a single team with any interest in trading a draft pick for him. In fact, the evidence suggests the opposite.