Quote from: LennG on May 03, 2024, 08:36:17 PMI feel so bad for Sham. He was a great horse but against Secretariat, he just couldn't compete.
Same thing with Alydar, who came second to Affirmed is each of his Triple Crown victories.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: LennG on May 03, 2024, 08:36:17 PMI feel so bad for Sham. He was a great horse but against Secretariat, he just couldn't compete.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 03, 2024, 01:20:53 PMIn case anyone is interested, here are all the PFF grades (for 2023) of the Giants offensive linemen
36th of 36
John Michael Schmitz Jr.
C
# 61
41.4
Aaron Stinnie
G
# 64
56.5
Austin Schlottmann
C
# 65
62.6
Jon Runyan
G
# 76
56.5
Marcus McKethan
G
# 60
45.4
Jimmy Morrissey
G
# 67
60.1
Yodny Cajuste
T
# 70
Jalen Mayfield
T
# 62
26.1
Joshua Miles
T
# 77
Matt Nelson
T
# 68
58.0
Jermaine Eluemunor
T
# 72
68.5
Joshua Ezeudu
T
# 75
42.4
Evan Neal
T
# 73
39.8
Andrew Thomas
T
# 78
76.1
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 03, 2024, 04:47:29 PMThere is no single one player who has more influence on the offense than the QB. The fact that they get paid much more than any single other position is not an accident. Obviously, you need a lot more than just a very good QB to win tough games in this league, but no single individual position is more important.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 03, 2024, 11:24:44 AMI agree, although some will point to the Bengals SB run as proof you don't need a line. I would counter by saying they haven't sniffed the SB since, and their QB is frequently injured.
Quote from: B1GBLUE on May 03, 2024, 11:05:33 AMi think if it comes down to it, and we MUST make a move up next year, its a better year to do it than it has been in a long time. we have some CORE players. we have 2 young stud pass rushers locked up, an elite dt locked up, a semi elite mlb locked up, a number one corner locked up, a blue chip wr locked up, a franchise LT locked up. hopefully a franchise C locked up.
With all that being said, if there was ever a year in which i could see us trading up with our 1st round, and following 1st round pick, it would be the 2025 draft. not saying we are "a qb away", but we for the first time in a long time have a lot of core, normally high draft capital guys locked up.
Quote from: TONKA56 on May 03, 2024, 09:53:36 AMI think the majority of folks on this board agree with you Chris but there is undoubtedly a vocal minority that do not.
Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 03, 2024, 10:20:38 AMWhat is more important to the QB than the WR is the offensive line.
Go and look up the offensive line rankings Tom Brady and Eli Manning both played with in the prime of their careers.
It is no coincidence that both had elite level line play to give them time to dissect a defense.
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 03, 2024, 09:59:01 AMRic,
I like your post. I will say, to me this question is akin to which tire on a car is the most important. For an offense to be successful you need a good QB and at least one really good receiving threat (can be a WR or special TE)
Quote from: BluesCruz on May 02, 2024, 11:08:26 PMone must not forget Tommy got thrown to the beast with little preparation
he kook the opportunity and beat Philly, his throws along the boundaries are world class
he keeps his head together and inspires the offense and never panics
Brown and Id dare say Lock do not posses this kind of polish and confidence...sorry but the Jersey Tomato is the best of the lot by far. I think Schoen knows this too
Will dump Brown at ist opportuity, disregard Lock and promote Tommy who has gotten lots of reps running the practice teaming will be ready when called
Quote from: MightyGiants on May 02, 2024, 02:02:51 PMI got excited when Ojulari came to OTAs jacked. Since then, a player coming in jacked is not something I immediately celebrate
Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on May 02, 2024, 12:42:48 PMFar be it for me to defend the Giants, as the last decade plus proves that they have been well behind average as a franchise, but this guy makes zero sense. Take JJ just because positional value dictates a QB? Take an OT and move him to ROT just like we did a few years ago? And what, make trades to shake things up and be more inspiring? This guy sounds like an idiot.
Sure, I could have made a good case to trade down in the first and get more picks and draft into the WR strength in the draft, but I give the Giants credit for not trading up, or not taking a QB at 6 they did not have convictions on. They will be judged harshly if they missed on QB, but they didn't do the "easy" thing and pick a QB and try to do something with a player that they didn't believe in.