Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: kingm56 on Today at 02:37:14 PMWhen does it end?  I stopped watching many years ago; the initial seasons were raw and allowed you to witness the sausage making.  Unfortunately, it's now a massive scripted production...IMO, it lost its initial charm; still, I'll watch this season because it's our Giants.

I assume it ends in June.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 02:35:34 PM....

I don't know why they don't take it through the first two weeks of Training Camp. Much more meat on the bone.

Quote from: kingm56 on Today at 02:24:24 PMAs it relates to context, should we continue to decouple the Offensive Line from the QB performance? From your posts, I get the impression you believe only the QB benefits from the OL, but fail to acknowledge the OL benefits from sound QB play. If the latter is terrible, it can make the OL appear worse than it is, or at the very least make thier jobs more difficult.  I stumbled across the article below a few years back and kept it to test thier conclusions at the end of each year. I highly encourage you read and consider the points made.  To be clear, I'm not suggesting the Giants OL is great, good, or even average. I acknowledge they stink and negatively impact DJ's performance; however, I also acknowledge DJ's shortcomings contribute to a significant portion of his sacks. IMO, they collectively stunk...

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/are-nfl-quarterbacks-responsible-for-sack-quality 

I was going to drop that point and it's a good one, but I didn't want to have to explain myself in a series of another dozen posts for those in the back of the room.

Quote from: T200 on Today at 02:17:03 PM

All good my man! 

The day we all agree, we can close shop.

Quote from: T200 on Today at 02:06:55 PMThat's a *little* more plausibe. Little.

Wouldn't Jones throwing to Nabors and Hyatt make for an exciting promotion. The team is struggling to find an identity and this was the best they could do.

The veiled conspiracy theory would be who will the starting QB be for the NY Giants when the media is dropping hints of a competition between two struggling passers.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 02:03:29 PMYou'd be very hard-pressed to find me taking any exception to drafting or not drafting a QB.  I never took a position.

But I apologize for continuing to bring facts, context, and perspective into the discussion.

Must be nice being neutral. After all the unnecessary sacks taken and illustrated on this site and QB comparison on other teams who managed well, your context is subjective. The Offensive Line was clearly an issue, so was the QB.

Quote from: T200 on Today at 01:53:44 PMSorry, still don't buy that this flyer without Jones will generate more revenue, since you say that's the bottom line, than it would with him.

They don't know who the starting QB will be.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 01:53:41 PMThat's a lot easier to do when you are playing behind a very good OL and not an historically bad OL.

https://www.playerprofiler.com/article/offensive-line-rankings-and-tiers-end-of-nfl-season-review-2024-offensive-line-outlook/

When y'all are crying because they didnt draft a QB, Ill be there to provide comfort and shelter from the storm.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on Today at 01:43:32 PMLet's see how long he has in the pocket before he has to start running for his life.

And the beat goes on...

It's not his fault. Blame all the DJ Hate out there.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on Today at 11:19:28 AMIs this anything new? For the past 5 years it's been Barkley and now it's Lawrence and Thibs. The best players on the team or flashy 1st rd picks are typically the focus of the media.

It is sad that the highest paid player has never been considered the face of the franchise.

What did you say about conspiracy theories... "The Bastion of the Weak Minded"??

Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:34:21 AMI don't remember the first neck injury.   However the second one was a hit in the back because Ezeudu completely wiffed his block.  The ACL was from trying to get out of the pocket because his protection had completely broken down.   DJ actually was trying to get around his unengaged RT to escape the pressure from his left.   

"Jones, who just returned from a three-game absence with a neck injury, had his knee bend awkwardly trying to avoid a sack on the last play of the first quarter. He returned, but on the very next play, his right knee buckled under him again during his dropback.

"He felt like he buckled, and then he was running it off," Daboll said about the two-play sequence. "We went over to him, we talked to him, he said, 'Nah, I'm good,' and then went back in, and it obviously wasn't."

Awkwardly trying to avoid a sack... QB's try to avoid sacks every game. No QB is clean all game. He needs to learn how to protect his body. Something he hasn't been able to do in 5 seasons. Then instead of getting checked out, he goes right back out there. That's on Daboll too BTW.

The 2023 neck was all on Ezeudu, you're right. It was his 6th sack that day. The other 2021 neck was on a running play. He still doesn't slide and when he runs, he's exposing himself if he doesn't give himself up.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on Today at 06:34:34 AMI think this is extremely important this year. One has to assume that his rushing production will take a hit post-ACL unless he has an Adrian Peterson-like recovery.

It won't matter if he hasn't learned how to slide or take an Eli dive. He's apparently too rigid of a body or not athletic enough to be able to slide. One of his issues is taking off after the first read. Because he can't read the field past his first read, or hesitates and windows close. Something the apologists and pilot fish are too stubborn or obtuse to accept. Which are the same traits he exhibits.