Poll
Question:
Who will the Giants miss more on Monday night?
Option 1: Andrew Thomas
votes: 21
Option 2: Saquon Barkley
votes: 9
Option 3: Both equally
votes: 3
Option 4: Neither
votes: 0
Option 5: Other (please explain
votes: 1
With perhaps the Giants two best offensive players being out Monday night, who will be missed more?
Probably Barkley, because this game is going to be all about scoring (for both teams), so to be missing a potent playmaker like him clearly hurts.
Thomas is obviously a big loss, but Seattle's pass rush is minimal, and we have seen Ezeudu more than hold his own against a subpar D in Arizona.
In short, for this game specifically, I think the dropoff from Barkley to Breida means more than the dropoff from Thomas to Ezeudu.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on October 01, 2023, 07:58:37 AMProbably Barkley, because this game is going to be all about scoring (for both teams), so to be missing a potent playmaker like him clearly hurts.
Thomas is obviously a big loss, but Seattle's pass rush is minimal, and we have seen Ezeudu more than hold his own against a subpar D in Arizona.
In short, for this game specifically, I think the dropoff from Barkley to Breida means more than the dropoff from Thomas to Ezeudu.
This is a great way of looking at it regarding the drop off from the starter to the back up being greater for the RB than it is at Left Tackle.
For this game it's Barkley. Based on last game, we have to assume Daboll and Kafka won't run without Barkley. If Barkley plays it will somewhat mitigate the pass rush. If it were Dallas or Philly then I would say Thomas. I think Josh can hold up. Good gosh, it's Josh!
Jacobs and Bradshaw.
I'll miss our above average, physical, clutch, running back by committee.
Especially in a game like this.
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I said 'Other'
They're going to miss having an offensive play caller because Dab/Ka is MIA. :surrender:
BARKLEY
Our back up RBs are capable of running effectively if the O line does its job. Same with DJ.
It's all on the line.
I voted Barkley
Thomas is a better player and bigger loss, but to me EZ has shown some level of competency whereas Breida is just not very good
Quote from: GloryDays on October 02, 2023, 12:45:54 PMOur back up RBs are capable of running effectively if the O line does its job. Same with DJ.
It's all on the line.
That doesn't answer the question but can see how it always has to be about the line to deflect away.
Quote from: True Blue on October 02, 2023, 12:48:37 PMI voted Barkley
Thomas is a better player and bigger loss, but to me EZ has shown some level of competency whereas Breida is just not very good
What makes you say breida isnt very good? as of late he looks to have better hands than barkley, and while hes not a game changer, he looks steady. im ok with saying barkley is better. way better. but i dont think that means breida is bad.
Quote from: B1GBLUE on October 02, 2023, 01:52:35 PMWhat makes you say breida isnt very good? as of late he looks to have better hands than barkley, and while hes not a game changer, he looks steady. im ok with saying barkley is better. way better. but i dont think that means breida is bad.
I don't think he is a good runner of the football. He is not a threat to anyone. He just JAG as Parcells used to say.
Quote from: Rambo89 on October 02, 2023, 01:39:59 PMThat doesn't answer the question but can see how it always has to be about the line to deflect away.
It's the obvious truth but some with Jones derangement syndrome have blurry glasses that do not allow them to see the obvious.
Quote from: GloryDays on October 02, 2023, 04:29:31 PMIt's the obvious truth but some with Jones derangement syndrome have blurry glasses that do not allow them to see the obvious.
The truth is some people don't watch a lot of NFL games that don't involve the Giants to see that offensive line line is down throughout the league and that even teams with bad offensive lines still put up good passing production because they have elite QB's who don't need everything to be perfect around them to succeed.
Quote from: Rambo89 on October 02, 2023, 04:46:00 PMThe truth is some people don't watch a lot of NFL games that don't involve the Giants to see that offensive line line is down throughout the league and that even teams with bad offensive lines still put up good passing production because they have elite QB's who don't need everything to be perfect around them to succeed.
Do you disagree with all the metrics that say the Giant's line is at or near the bottom of the league?
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 02, 2023, 04:53:35 PMDo you disagree with all the metrics that say the Giant's line is at or near the bottom of the league?
Do you disagree with Carl Banks said today on Twitter?
A Rushing Attack.
Quote from: Rambo89 on October 02, 2023, 05:03:49 PMDo you disagree with Carl Banks said today on Twitter?
I wouldn't disagree with Banks. He's right.
https://x.com/carlbanksgiii/status/1708911278775750666?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 02, 2023, 05:22:54 PMI wouldn't disagree with Banks. He's right.
https://x.com/carlbanksgiii/status/1708911278775750666?s=46&t=1vcQIN8GqF5J2oLdxEVEJQ
That offensive line play is bad throughout the NFL. Glad you agree.
Quote from: Rambo89 on October 02, 2023, 05:40:02 PMThat offensive line play is bad throughout the NFL. Glad you agree.
Along with bad O-line impacting even great QBs
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 02, 2023, 05:58:14 PMAlong with bad O-line impacting even great QBs
Yet the great QB's consistently put up elite production.
Quote from: Rambo89 on October 02, 2023, 06:01:08 PMYet the great QB's consistently put up elite production.
Not according to the man you citef