https://www.bigblueview.com/2024/3/15/24102299/nfl-free-agency-news-giants-agree-to-terms-with-guard-aaron-stinnie-news
Aaron Stinnie spent the past 3 years with the bucs with "716 snaps at left guard per Pro Football Focus. He gave up 29 total pressure in pass protection last year (2 sacks, 2 hits, 25 hurries), as well as committing four penalties, on 442 pass blocking reps."
Austin Schlottmann depth guy having played "449 snaps at right guard, 512 at center, and 90 at left guard for Denver and Minnesota."
Per BBV
From the article
We have seen the floor and its covered with hairballs and old cigar butts. If we could somehow lift that unit to average that would be a huge achievement. We have 2 spots that are spoken for at this point and that's LT and C. We need to decide on the other three starters and two or three depth pieces. I think they will have more than a dozen guys competing for those 5 spots in camp. More will come as the camp roster fills out and they may draft a guy so if they draft a guy and keep Neal that's 3 spots that need to be filled by the rabble that also includes McKethan and Ezudu.
Let's hope we can get 5 competent ones to start the season.
https://x.com/Giants/status/1768744367882182790?s=20
https://x.com/Giants/status/1768743878499209281?s=20
Aaron Stinnie
DOB
1994-02-18 (30)
HEIGHT
6'3"
WEIGHT
312
(https://i.imgur.com/8AxLoSC.png)
Austin Schlottmann
DOB
1995-09-18 (28.4)
HEIGHT
6'6"
WEIGHT
300
(https://i.imgur.com/IWqVpuh.png)
Schlottman has played as back-up C last two years for the Vikings and that is why he is here. He was utterly horrible in 2022 and just above league average in 2023.
Depth to replace Glow and Brederson
Don't underrate Stinnie. Take a look at the games played, and the sacks, hits and hurries. I see him competing for a starting role at LG. Evan Neal better be on his game because Guard doesn't look to be in his future after this week's moves. Those positions have been nicely upgraded.
As long as nobody retires, goes IR or has a mental breakdown. I think I covered every surprise of the past. Hopefully nobody is placed in the witness protection program, gets abducted by aliens or takes a trip to Russia.
Quote from: Ed Vette on March 16, 2024, 10:16:45 AMDon't underrate Stinnie. Take a look at the games played, and the sacks, hits and hurries. I see him competing for a starting role at LG. Evan Neal better be on his game because Guard doesn't look to be in his future after this week's moves. Those positions have been nicely upgraded.
As long as nobody retires, goes IR or has a mental breakdown. I think I covered every surprise of the past. Hopefully nobody is placed in the witness protection program, gets abducted by aliens or takes a trip to Russia.
If I'm Daboll I almost think you have to consider fields for a 4th. You've reinforced the oline, got 2 blocking TEs, and signed a 1 cut Rb. Get fields, another Rb, and Odunze at 6.
Qb Fields
RB Singletary, Grey, Corbin
Wr Odunze
Wr Slayton
Slot Wandale/Hyatt
LT Thomas
LG Neal/Stinnie
C JMS
RG Runyan
RT Eluemunor
And just become the Ravens of the NFC. I'd be down for that until we find A guy. Fields can run, and go deep. So run his ass off with the backs, and chunk it to Odunze, Slayton, and Hyatt downfield
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 16, 2024, 10:29:53 AMIf I'm Daboll I almost think you have to consider fields for a 4th. You've reinforced the oline, got 2 blocking TEs, and signed a 1 cut Rb. Get fields, another Rb, and Odunze at 6.
Qb Fields
RB Singletary, Grey, Corbin
Wr Odunze
Wr Slayton
Slot Wandale/Hyatt
LT Thomas
LG Neal/Stinnie
C JMS
RG Runyan
RT Eluemunor
And just become the Ravens of the NFC. I'd be down for that until we find A guy. Fields can run, and go deep. So run his ass off with the backs, and chunk it to Odunze, Slayton, and Hyatt downfield
If the price is just a 4th, I'd consider it too if we're not drafting a QB. I would pass on the 5th year option though.
I get the idea they are throwing "sticky stuff" against the wall to see what sticks. Get as many OL in for training camp and let the chips fall where they may. We can't go another year with the crowd yelling"olé", every time a pass rush is on. Gotta stop those jailbreaks. These two don't seem like "permanent fixes" to me, and maybe only backup roles
Hopefully, Bricillo knows these guys and has input and has a genuine plan :-??
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 16, 2024, 10:29:53 AMIf I'm Daboll I almost think you have to consider fields for a 4th. You've reinforced the oline, got 2 blocking TEs, and signed a 1 cut Rb. Get fields, another Rb, and Odunze at 6.
Qb Fields
RB Singletary, Grey, Corbin
Wr Odunze
Wr Slayton
Slot Wandale/Hyatt
LT Thomas
LG Neal/Stinnie
C JMS
RG Runyan
RT Eluemunor
And just become the Ravens of the NFC. I'd be down for that until we find A guy. Fields can run, and go deep. So run his ass off with the backs, and chunk it to Odunze, Slayton, and Hyatt downfield
No way in hell is Chicago going to give away fields for a fourth rounder. At that point they might as well just keep him for one more year. He's cheap anyways rumor has it they want a first rounder which obviously I don't think they're gonna get. There's also speculation that the deal could be done for a second rounder at this point. for whatever reason there's quite a few NFL teams that are just not at least in the public eyes very interested in Justin Fields
Quote from: brownelvis54 on March 16, 2024, 11:12:31 AMNo way in hell is Chicago going to give away fields for a fourth rounder. At that point they might as well just keep him for one more year. He's cheap anyways rumor has it they want a first rounder which obviously I don't think they're gonna get. There's also speculation that the deal could be done for a second rounder at this point. for whatever reason there's quite a few NFL teams that are just not at least in the public eyes very interested in Justin Fields
I wouldn't move Fields for a fourth rounder either if I were the Bears. I'd hang on to him if that were really the market. Someone may need him more during the season, or even once camp/preseason starts if there is an injury.
Quote from: brownelvis54 on March 16, 2024, 11:12:31 AMNo way in hell is Chicago going to give away fields for a fourth rounder. At that point they might as well just keep him for one more year. He's cheap anyways rumor has it they want a first rounder which obviously I don't think they're gonna get. There's also speculation that the deal could be done for a second rounder at this point. for whatever reason there's quite a few NFL teams that are just not at least in the public eyes very interested in Justin Fields
Kenny pickett just got traded for a 3rd round swap, why would a 4th rd pick upright seem unreasonable?
Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 16, 2024, 11:55:16 AMKenny pickett just got traded for a 3rd round swap, why would a 4th rd pick upright seem unreasonable?
Comparing Pickett to Fields? I remember there were some here that were very high on Fileds, in fact some debated Is Fileds marginally better than Trever Lawrence. Before the draft there was a ton of hype in regard to Fields. The 2021 draft at the time was loaded with QBs that on paper looked very promising. The 2022 draft had no clear cut QB and Pickett was picked because he seemed to be the best of the bunch, his value is much lower than Fields.
Quote from: brownelvis54 on March 16, 2024, 12:20:12 PMComparing Pickett to Fields? I remember there were some here that were very high on Fileds, in fact some debated Is Fileds marginally better than Trever Lawrence. Before the draft there was a ton of hype in regard to Fields. The 2021 draft at the time was loaded with QBs that on paper looked very promising. The 2022 draft had no clear cut QB and Pickett was picked because he seemed to be the best of the bunch, his value is much lower than Fields.
A Maxim in NFL football life: NEVER, EVER judge a player by where he was drafted. The day after the draft, every single rookie player is at ground zero and where they were drafted means NOTHING
So you can't compare Pickett to Fields by pre-draft hype and where each was drafted. It will be interesting to see where both are sitting 2-years, 4-years from now. Nobody knows :-??
The market for Fields is a day 3 pick. That is the reality. The Bears have totally misjudged the market which sees him only as a back-up/emergency starter.
I agree with those who think keeping him and seeing if a mid season trade brings better value but the Bears beat writers generally think this is a bad idea as Fields is popular with many in the locker room and building which will make it harder for Caleb Williams to assert himself.
The Bears will have to get rid of Fields, regardless of offers if they draft Williams
Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on March 16, 2024, 01:18:36 PMThe Bears will have to get rid of Fields, regardless of offers if they draft Williams
Not sure I think they "have to" get rid of Fields. Chargers kept Brees, packers kept Favre and Rodgers when their replacements were drafted. Alex Smith played the year Mahomes was drafted.
If course there are differences with those examples, but the idea that teams have to get rid of an incumbent starter seems incorrect to me.
Quote from: Ed Vette on March 16, 2024, 10:16:45 AMDon't underrate Stinnie. Take a look at the games played, and the sacks, hits and hurries. I see him competing for a starting role at LG. Evan Neal better be on his game because Guard doesn't look to be in his future after this week's moves. Those positions have been nicely upgraded.
As long as nobody retires, goes IR or has a mental breakdown. I think I covered every surprise of the past. Hopefully nobody is placed in the witness protection program, gets abducted by aliens or takes a trip to Russia.
Yes. Nyet to vacationing in Russia (or training like Rocky IV did). Witness protection? Got very little of from Neal so far. Abducted by aliens? Do these lineman live near the border?
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