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Quote from: killarich on March 12, 2024, 10:54:10 AMI thought Waller stated he wanted to keep playing ... and Giants stated they wanted him back?

Did something else happen ?

Really? Ok, didn't know that.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 12, 2024, 10:45:56 AMOjulari may thrive and be healthier as the back up to both burns and thibs

His FA price just dropped too. If that's not an incentive, he's not paying attention.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 12, 2024, 10:21:38 AMIts not a rebuild when you are splurging on the 1st day of FA.  Its an attempt to become relevant quickly.  Rebuilding teams generally don't trade 2nd day picks for the right to sign a guy to a huge contract.  Get ready to party like its 2016.

I would hardly call any of those signings except for Burns a splurge. They look like plugs for obvious holes and not nearly the best players on the Market. Let's see how the contracts break down.

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Quote from: MightyGiants on March 12, 2024, 09:51:05 AM33rd team is an excellent resource, I am not sure why people are saying the information they are creating is misleading (I was also told their stat on RB contracts, on another thread, was misleading)

While the 33rd team has become a bit more fan-friendly, it's still one of my favorite resources.  I have a hard time believing any of the stuff they put out was intended to mislead. 

Interesting how you replace context with misleading. I didn't think it was intentional, just sensational. You could be right though. Another matter of semantics. The context however could validate the veracity of the statement.

I also view these contracts in terms of their Guaranteed Money. 

For context, you may want to add the number of transactions and the average per transaction.

Quote from: Philosophers on March 12, 2024, 09:25:31 AMIt's all about those Guards IMHO.  If they fail like our previous Guards, disaster.

Burns success depends on the scheme.  He was less successful as a 3-4 OLB than as a 4-3 DE.

What do you see as the difference in an Edge Rusher in a 3-4 and a Pass Rusher DE in a 4/3? I ask because it's the second time you made this comment. So comparing Jenkins, Strahan, Kiwi, Osi to Ojulari, Thibs and Burns, don't they all have the same responsibilities as a Pass Rusher, containing the edge and Zone dropbacks? A hand in the dirt?

Leo, Adoree, Saquon and McKinney all gone. Waller likely gone. Ojulari reduced to a backup.

It seems to me that there is a shift in how the Offense will be based on. It's moving from a Run Based to a Pass Based Offense. The focus was not to invest Cap dollars on two players, when there are glaring needs at the foundation level of the team. Pass Protection and Pass Rush.

When the new DC was brought in it was portending a change in philosophy from an attacking blitz rush the passer to getting pressure from the Front four or five. The contract bringing in Burns in a few years will be dwarfed by other deals and the draft capital given up was what was received for Leo. So a younger player that will along with Thibs apply pressure on the edges while Dex provides push up the middle.

No matter who the QB was last season, the pass protection hindered the passing game from getting the ball downfield. Two important holes were plugged and if they resign Bredeson and Phillips, the upgrade is significant. It doesn't tell me anything about their plans over the QB situation. If they draft a QB, the anticipated protection will only aid in the development and rapid progress. If they don't draft a QB in the first round, it doesn't preclude them from targeting one in the second round or next year.

They have needs to fill, but Oline and Pass Rushers are now taken off the table for the first round. They can still pick up an olineman later in a deep draft. They need to bolster Defensive Backs and that may be a FA decision, but they need a Safety and two Corners. Flott and Holmes ain't cutting it. WR, can be upgraded in the draft, but they need to get the ball to the two Receivers they drafted, WDR and Jalin Hyatt. A 3 Tech is a need. They need another RB and Gray may or may not be the guy.

No matter how this team winds up, it's still a year or two away from being a contender. They need to Draft solid players and a couple of All Pro caliber players and that will take more than this year to accomplish.

If they don't move on from Barkley and McKinney, they would have needed to add PR and PP to their list of needs in the Draft and we know the crap shoot that is. So proven commodities allow the focus to address the many needs still outstanding.

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 12, 2024, 08:12:08 AMI am curious: are you trying to make yourself the most disliked person on the forum, or is this just coming naturally to you?

Usually, successful newcomers make an effort to fit in and get along with the people they plan on talking football with.

Good advice, Rich. Quite frankly, I'm the only reason he/she is still here. But my patience is wearing thin.

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