Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: ViewFromSection129 on March 13, 2024, 02:25:02 PMAmazing that this team has sucked for a decade, but every year, we are up against the cap.

Not to quibble with your point but our team has gone to the playoffs twice in the last decade

Quote from: Philosophers on March 12, 2024, 07:38:35 PMI wonder if the Dabs/Schoen think they can use DJ as a means to save their jobs if they dont draft a QB and instead build the offense around DJ.  If DJ fails, they can say "you pressured us into working with him.  See..."

I think its the opposite.  Draft a rookie QB and they buy themselves more time.  In my opinion, both Schoen and Daboll would have to really screw up to lose their jobs this year.  I think Schoen is miles better than Gettleman who got 4 years and pretty much dug the hole that Schoen is cleaning up.  And comparing Daboll to McAdoo and Judge is also a no contest.  We are on the track

How is everyone do certain they know what the Giants will do without knowing who will be available when the Giants pick at 6 if they end up at 6?

As an aside, does anyone else think that theres an awful lot of trolling going on with respect to the Jones threads?  I've come to the conclusion that alot of whats being said in threads like this are designed to rile up fans

Quote from: andrew_nyGiants on March 10, 2024, 04:22:07 PMYes. I agree with the ladder....he simply doesn't process fast enough and too often realizes it just late enough to panic forcing a bad pass or taking a sack.


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Or he's feeling pressure from a few pressure points.  Or, he's feeling pressure after being sacked or rushed constantly.  Or the receivers going deep are not getting separation or are running the wrong pattern. Or, Garrett's coaching was internalized to avoid turnovers and he's been coached to avoid turnovers. 

Not a loaded question.  How does a fan watching a game on television ( or even at a game) know that Jones does not process whats in front on him as opposed to any number of legitimate explanations for a play not working?

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 10, 2024, 11:45:26 AMHeard this on NFL Radio.  Mac Jones to the Jaguars for a 6th round pick.

If there was any doubt about the Patriots drafting a QB, this should remove it.

I think there was 100% certainty that Jones was not returning and this does had no effect on anything NE does going forward.  A bigger factor is the status of a veteran QB they may want like Mayfield or even Wilson.  Of the 3 QBs projected to go early, at least 1 should be a bust.  They may see the one available at 3 to be a bust and Harrison would be a great prize

Quote from: ozzie on March 08, 2024, 11:34:35 PMI agree 100% with your assessment of Ojulari...has the skills but often injured. I also feel he will never play a full season. Hopefully the Giants can find someone to compliment KT.

Not a loaded question.  Did Ojulari ever take over a game even when he was healthy?

Quote from: files58 on March 08, 2024, 03:42:42 PMWhy? You don't know what the asking prices were. Dolan doesn't want to trade this year's #1 because the draft is at one of his properties, and Drury doesn't want to trade Kakko. I agree. The league has a tendency to ask more from the Rangers in trades than other teams. Seattle re-signed Eberle, Anaheim wanted alot for Vatrano. Pittsburgh's rivalry with Carolina is mild compared with that of the Rangers. I could not see the Pens considering sending Guentzel here. Taffoli would have been nice, but the Devils would never do it. Tarasenko's family lives in Florida. So we go to war with what we have. Carolina also got Kuznetsov, but his head may not be straight. Adam Tuch was not going to get traded, and the price for doing so would have been exorbitant. Drury would not part with Othmann and Perrault. Again I agree. People in the know say that Perrault was the steal of the 2023 draft. Bettman must be drooling about Florida. Southwest winner last year, southeast looking really strong, Rangers very relevant, and making money for the league. That's how he wants it in his macro view competing with other sports. We have a micro view.

I don't often agree with you but I do here.nobody knows what the asking price was for Guentzel. And he was only a rental having been public that he would not sign a contract until he became a free agent.  Taffoli was not moved at all, the Devils are on a winning streak.  The Rangers have a good combination of experience and youth and have some high level prospects.  If Shesty is back to playing what he's shown he's capable of, with the right amount of luck, they're in the running.  If they hadn't made the trade for Wennberg,  Drury would have deserved the criticism.  But getting him (for a good price) and some depth pieces, I'm ok with that.

Quote from: uconnjack8 on March 06, 2024, 08:40:51 PMHow much is McKinney projected to get if Dugger is expected to get 4 years, 53 mill worth 29 guaranteed?

Would prefer McKinney

I'm reading the nonsign of mcKinney, if it goes that way, as they want to use the big money to sign multiple OGs and or DL preferably pass rushers

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 04, 2024, 08:25:44 PMWan'dale will never be an alpha receiver. Under any circumstances. He's a complimentary piece. And that's fine. All teams need guys like him. But I think the Lockett ceiling is a good comp and best-case scenario. And Lockett was never an alpha receiver.



I wasn't saying WanDale will be the alpha receiver.  The guy they draft at 6, whether Makik or Rome, would be the alpha receiver who would draw the coverage

Quote from: Jclayton92 on March 04, 2024, 05:07:59 PMWith the right QB he's going to explode.

A better QB would help but he will explode when the Giants have a WR who can scare a defense and has to be accounted for.  I don't think any of the wideouts scare defenses.  Hyatt may become that guy but it's not just speed; John Ross did not do that either.  If Nasir's or Rome can get off the line of scrimmage like the guy on the Jets, he's going to get double teamed and give WanDale the space he needs.  I think WanDales game will be primarily yards after the completion. And, I think it'll be serious YAC. I want to see that alpha WR we haven't had since Beckham.  As an aside, way better than Jamison if healthy

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 04, 2024, 06:26:31 PMWould you say his play last year prior to the two injuries made the Giants brass feel good about their decision to give him all that money?

Not understanding.  Does this mean they don't think JJ will be there with the6th pick ?  Or am I misunderstanding?

Can somebody tell me what McConkey brings to the table what Wan'Dale doesn't? 

Maybe he overplayed his hand, maybe he didn't.  The fact that he didn't accept the Giants offer probably helps the Giants in that he probably would be on the team for the next 2 years at more than $12 million a year.  If the Giants franchised him this year, which I believe they (and he) don't want them to do, I think it's in the neighborhood of $12 m a year.

I think he's almost definitely leaving and the club that makes the most sense is Houston. They have Cap money, they are a team on the rise with a young QB on a great contract, they could use a RB and Barkley has that aura of a top RB, their OL is not bad and probably a lot better than ours, and a pointI have not seen mentioned, there is no income tax in Texas (I think).