Big Blue Huddle

We are still only one game back of the division lead lol

We did not force ONE punt ....that is inexcusable ...

You can't BEND the ENTIRE game, give up free points and expect to win games

This game was lost on the scheme of the defense


I was sick of the Graham defense and we are right back to the same philosophy

Bowen is Truly a POS after today

I pray he gets the Spags luck and it clicks game 3 ... but my god that was atrocious

Post game comments here

Its only one game so im not going to hate on the defense just yet ....

BUT

Some possible GLARING and MAJOR problems

1. If the front 4 arent getting pressure (Looking at you Burns and Thibs.. not you Sexy Dexy) the opposing QB is getting a massive amount of time in the pocket and our DBs just arent that good ..... and this was Darnold we were playing an he shredded us up

2. If the line isnt getting any pressure you cant be scared to bring the extra man on a blitz on occasion .... you allowed Darnold to be so comfortable back there that he got into a major groove

3. TOO MUCH ZONE ... their was numerous plays where the defense actually held up .... and Darnold was scrambling and you could tell he was either going to throw it out to his RB or TE and one of our LB's or corners were in the area but they PURPOSELY would back peddle ....obviously knowing they would stop them before the marker.... my issue was that most of these dumpoffs were NOT on 3rd down..... I hate giving up free yardage setting up something like a 3rd and 4 or something... it makes zero sense to me... play hard force an incompletion... this is on coaching


Its only one game and hopefully Burns and Thibs are more effective with time but this was aggravating to watch

To this day his entire career I defended Danny Dimes

But today was my breaking point .... He had time in the pocket today ... yea maybe some plays no one was open ..but still idk I just cant defend him anymore

Season is just 1 game in ....  Daboll please start Devito next week.... I don't think he will be great .. but he has potentially a higher ceiling than Lock obviously .... But Devito has more of a calm presence in the pocket and doesn't stare down his receivers

He did win 3 games in a row last season .... and now we have Nabers


Just make the move now ... why risk more games at this point

This guy looked good to me and the fact that he has been splitting first team reps with McFadden is even more exciting.

You add Okereke and Simmons I think our linebacker core plus the pass rush with Dex is actually possibly a legit top 5 defense. Not too mention you still have Azeez coming in for rotation fresh.

My only question in that group is who steps up at DT next to Dex

If Dru Philips is legit at slot and Nubin is who we think is that Safety rotation is DEEP even with the loss of X. Cant forget we still have Mills as the 4th Safety

My only question mark is CB2. I hope McCloud can step up and at least be average. I mean if the front 7 is as good as I hope they are that will relieve pressure off the DB's anyways

Slayton interview with Keyshawn Johnson. If you cut to the 10:55 part of the interview where they speak on Nabers, Slayton then speaks on how the complications of Dabs offense can be confusing to anyone.

The whole interview is a decent listen but that part stuck out to me for those 2 reasons

Before FA period ....did Berry not give Schoen numbers ? And Joe says 25 million (guaranteed) 12.5 mil annual keeps Saquon a Giant ?

It seems like a number was there to be offered .... Philly just came in and offered more ... what 26 mil ?

Or did I mishear that conversation?

It seems TECHNICALLY a contract was not offered .... But would have been offered had the eagles not overpay .....

So in the end it seemed like Barkley tried to make the Giants seem like the villain when it obviously wasn't the case

And if I heard the information correctly ... was Joe right that Barkley took 1 mil more to leave ? Vs keeping his legacy ?

He states if he was a third round pick it wouldn't even be a question if he was making this team or not

I for one think he should make the team .... Not only do I think he should make the team I think he should've been the main backup behind Jones and Lock should have never been signed .... But that's just me

He came in and won 3 straight games

I think letting him go could (not would) be a mistake

How are you feeling about the running back group ?

While obviously no Barkley is a downgrade I think our group itself can be decent

1. Singleterry I think can be decent as the main back but he shouldn't carry the load as much as Barkley did

2. Grey we drafted him last year ... now give him a bigger role ... right now is the time to roll the dice and see what we actually have

3. Tracy is the rookie who has been a wr more than rb .... Maybe he can be used as a backfield receiving threat since Jones does seem to dump it off a lot

I think we need to stop playing around and just see what we got.... We already know what we have in brightwell and Corbin ..... just give the youngins the playing time

You just never know... I know this is a "strong" qb class .... But man if it fails you always gave up too much

Happy we got nabers .... Build the team not give away all assets


And this is nothing in comparison to what we and other teams were possibly trying to give up

https://x.com/giants/status/1770978683571831089?s=46&t=4UBQssq3DtM-8rvH6WpuWA

https://x.com/giants/status/1770980053054091671?s=46&t=4UBQssq3DtM-8rvH6WpuWA


Anyone know anything about him?

https://x.com/justinpugh/status/1768313560814477682?s=46&t=4UBQssq3DtM-8rvH6WpuWA


Reading in between the lines

Okay I think this is how the future QB situation with the Giants works out ... a few different possibilities:

1. The easiest, quickest and least of a headache solution .. one of the top 3 drops in this draft .... DJ is cut after this season and we have our QB of the future

2. These all blend together on how I am thinking. The top 3 QB's are most likely gone by 6 and I don't agree and hope they don't reach for a QB outside the top 3 at # 6. I think the Giants go WR at #6 and keep draft picks without trading up. Filling in other needs of the team

With a new O-line coach, some new pieces, maybe Neal moves to Guard or having upgrades next to him helps him improve at Tackle. Topped with a new (Hopefully better) O-line coach the unit as a whole is improved and good to the point where DJ fans cant excuse him anymore. Please note, I am one of those DJ fans so I am not making any digs.

DJ will most likely have to burden all the stress and pressure on his shoulders this season as he no longer has Barkley to lean on. This will lead to 3 possible outcomes that I see happening :

1. The DJ miracle situation, with a #1 WR drafted , better O-line. Wandale and Hyatt a year older and a year removed injury (Wandale). He looks like a legit QB , Waller not quitting and being decent is a bonus weapon at this point , chances of this happening <10%

2. Singleterry shows us the dropoff from Barkley is not that significant, all the other pieces added to the team actually improve the team as a whole but DJ is still the biggest question mark on the team. We either end up sneaking into the playoff or missing out but not top 5 in the draft. So Schoen now has no choice but to trade the first round pick and future assets to get into to position to draft whoever is the best QB or 2nd best QB in next years draft. Yes we give up a massive haul, but because we filled in holes this year via draft and (hopefully) successful free agent signings it will be OK because QB was the main piece anyways , and we fill in a few other pieces via free agency and whatever draft capital we have left. Chances 50/50.

3. The team completely sucks, draft picks are not impactful at least not this season. The free agent signings don't really move the needle with the O-line and Pass rush (at that point Schoen may be gone). This happens and we have top 5 pick in the draft anyways we draft a QB and have other picks to work with. Chances 50/50



These are just my thoughts on how I see things panning out

Unless we get lucky in this draft which is the hope. I think we should just build the team out and figure out the QB situation next season. I think we are more likely to trade up next years draft with a better built team then this draft.

And I know right now the QB prospects next season are nowhere near the quality of this years draft. But I feel like that is something that can and almost always changes.

With #6 I want a bonafide #1 WR .... unless one of the top QB's drop

Im torn between Safety or DT (Specifically a run stuffing DT)

If a safety drops that would be great .... But do we just roll with Belton and see how he pans out ?

But damn I think I am leaning towards DT... We may have possibly built one of the best D-Lines in the league .... I think getting a DT next to Sexy Dexy who can stuff the line not only makes us successful in the trenches .... but doing so can help our secondary... the good ole spags mentality

With Williams gone, would not mind resigning Adore if the price is right 

Was released , how rich do you think his asking would be ?

Him , singletery and Grey would be a nice 1, 2 ,3 punch

I was pissed as f*** we lost Barkley and Im not happy about the way he's acting

BUT

Upon further thought I feel like today has become more of a WIN than a loss

Why?

Losing Saquon sucks yes... but we just simply cant afford to pay a RB that much money

Losing McKinney sucks no matter how much you try to spin it... but the cost was really high

Now lets look at the incoming moves

We signed two midlevel Linemen, while not splashy ..... just the possibility of them being an upgrade is something we can look forward too... We also have a new O-line coach that in itself may have improved the O-line without the upgrades

Singleterry on the surface is no Barkley not even close ... BUT he does average 4 YAC ....  Now lets say the O-line does have some form of magical improvement to lets say the middle of the pack ... is Singleterry behind a decent O-line really going to be felt that much over an often injured Barkley behind a terrible O-line who only ran for 900 yards ?  IDK the trade off may be worth it

Then the obvious Burns... we essentially traded Williams and moved back 8 picks for Burns... crazy deal but absolutely worth it

Whoever we have at safety can hopefully have an easier job with Burns and Thibs wreaking havoc causing opposing teams QB's to throw it away

Azeez should also benefit as he is now only needed situationally and can hopefully keep fresh legs and less chance of injury

While I want a QB I rather the Giants not reach and just draft someone like Nabers unless one of the 3 QBs drop

I think the building blocks are better off now

for 2nd and 5th