Which first-round pick most surprised you as a Giants fan?
Which first-round pick did you most expect?
I'm old enough to remember Rocky Thompson.
Quote from: katkavage on April 22, 2024, 11:55:24 AMI'm old enough to remember Rocky Thompson.
As a surprise, or as the guy you thought the Giants would draft?
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 11:52:16 AMWhich first-round pick most surprised you as a Giants fan?
Which first-round pick did you most expect?
Did NOT see that one coming - biggest surprise:
Eli Apple (with a shout out to rapper non-star
Toney)
Expectations met - no surprise at all:
Jeremy ShockeyWorst ever first round pick in my memory: Erick Flowers tried to be it, but he lost out to a tie between
Ron Dayne and
William Joseph :sick:
Edit: forgot about Deandre Baker...he has to be in the "worst pick ever" category!
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 11:56:15 AMAs a surprise, or as the guy you thought the Giants would draft?
Surprise. He was an unknown. And no one thought the Giants would draft him. And they were right, they shouldn't have.
While Tony was out of left field (although the trade was a big part of it), I think JPP may have been one of the most surprising. There were so many guys I thought the Giants would take, like Center Pouncy. I wasn't home when I heard the pick, but I remember my reaction when I heard it- "they drafted the guy who does back flips?!?!"
WR Kadarius Toney (2021 1-20)
CB Deandre Baker (2019 1-30)
CB Eli Apple (2016 1-10)
OT Ereck Flowers (2015 1-9)
DT William Joseph (2003 1-25)
RB Ron Dayne (2000 1-11)
Unfortunately, the Giants have been as predictable in picking "busts" as they have been otherwise which no longer- see above- can be seen as a surprise. But then again, 6 in 24, 1st Round Drafts doesn't seem quite so bad except for the lost opportunities/consequences.
Cheers!
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 12:10:38 PMWhile Tony was out of left field (although the trade was a big part of it), I think JPP may have been one of the most surprising. There were so many guys I thought the Giants would take, like Center Pouncy. I wasn't home when I heard the pick, but I remember my reaction when I heard it- "the drafted the guy who does back flips?!?!"
Whenever I think of JPP, I think of him tipping that kick in Dallas in the playoff run of 2011.
Great pick.
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William Joseph shocked me as I was just starting in my draft interest and he was one of my "no way" guys. The least surprising was Saquon as Gettleman might as well have had his name tattooed on his forehead he made it so obvious what he was doing. I was a big fan of AT so I was delighted when we took him.
I mentioned in another topic how frustrated I was with the Mathias Kiwanuka pick. They already had one of the best defensive lines in football and immediately announced they would be moving Kiwanuka to linebacker. He was a decent player but never had a chance to live up to expectations as a first round difference maker.
I guess it is true. You can never have too many pass rushers. :-??
The news media for months said the Giants wanted Carl Banks to play opposite from LT. Everyone got that one right.
Honorable mention, I was screaming for the Giants to take Lorenzo Carter in the 2nd round. They took WIll Hernandez in the 2nd and Carter in the 3rd. I'm still try to work out if I got that one right or wrong.
Amukamura surprised me the most because it was not a position of immediate need coming off a 2010 with Terrill Thomas, Corey Webster and Aaron Ross. Prince barely played as a rookie even with Thomas out for the year. Obviously it all worked out since we won the Super Bowl but I thought taking a DB was a head scratcher.
Surprise - Cedric Jones
No Surprise - Jeremy Shockey
Quote from: londonblue on April 22, 2024, 02:07:50 PMWilliam Joseph shocked me as I was just starting in my draft interest and he was one of my "no way" guys. The least surprising was Saquon as Gettleman might as well have had his name tattooed on his forehead he made it so obvious what he was doing. I was a big fan of AT so I was delighted when we took him.
I was so happy on draft day that we got Joseph...man, what a let-down. He had all the enthusiasm to be the best, as did Ron Dayne. Joseph got his contract, then ate well and fattened up as football became secondary (maybe tertiary) on his "things to do" list. What a huge disappointment. At least Eric Flowers tried, Joseph simply cashed his check and headed to the restaurants, stuffing his face
The guy that sticks out to me as most surprising will always be Thomas Lewis. That dude was NOWHERE on my radar or anyone else's in the 1st round. I just remember watching the draft and the hosts all scrambling to see who he was and they didn't even have a graphic for the guy so all they patched together was a random screen shot with his helmet on from some game film. So embarrassing. =)) =)) =))
Quote from: PSUBeirut on April 22, 2024, 02:32:55 PMThe guy that sticks out to me as most surprising will always be Thomas Lewis. That dude was NOWHERE on my radar or anyone else's in the 1st round. I just remember watching the draft and the hosts all scrambling to see who he was and they didn't even have a graphic for the guy so all they patched together was a random screen shot with his helmet on from some game film. So embarrassing. =)) =)) =))
Great call. He still is jot on my radar. =))
Quote from: londonblue on April 22, 2024, 02:07:50 PMWilliam Joseph shocked me as I was just starting in my draft interest and he was one of my "no way" guys. The least surprising was Saquon as Gettleman might as well have had his name tattooed on his forehead he made it so obvious what he was doing. I was a big fan of AT so I was delighted when we took him.
The funny thing is I remember people being okay with Joseph but they were not happy with Osi in round 2.
Gosh where to start.
I guess the biggest surprise was Cedric Jones. The Giants and George Young had their eye on 4 guys and he figured to get one of them with the 5th pick. He was taken completely by surprise when all 4 went before we picked. He had to make a pick and it was Jones. He never even knew he was legally blind in one eye.
And if we really want to be surprised, no one was more surprised when Young selected that QB out of Morehead State and fellow by the name of Simms.
The first name that popped into my head was Eli Apple. Reese had been jumped twice in that draft I think and it seemed to me like such a desperation pick.
As for most expected, that's an easy one.
Hint #1...he was touched by the hand of God. Hint #2.....he's a sure fire Gold Jacket. Hint #3.....Gettleman was in Full Bloom Love with him and let everyone know it.....
Saquon Barkley.
Quote from: katkavage on April 22, 2024, 11:55:24 AMI'm old enough to remember Rocky Thompson.
Did he wear #22?
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 22, 2024, 02:48:52 PMThe funny thing is I remember people being okay with Joseph but they were not happy with Osi in round 2.
Yeah, the 2003 draft was stacked with top notch DTs and that was the position that Giants needed the most. DTs Dewayne Robertson, Johnathan Sullivan, Kevin Williams; Jimmy Kennedy went in the first 12 picks that year. We weren't on the clock until no.25. Joseph was considered "good", but more of a second rounder. Still, I was elated that we got a solid DT...a whew moment for me :doh:
When we got Osi, I agreed with Mel Kiper that we "overpaid" and we could have had him a round or two later. I was wrong and learned a lesson about thinking I knew anything of value concerning pre-draft player analysis. I have learned to control my emotions during the draft and accept that I'm not quite as smart as I think I am. Just a fan :(
Apple surprised me the most anytime in somewhat recent memory. He was not remotely on my radar for that pick.
Barkley surprised me the least by far. It was just about pre-announced that we were taking him.
The least surprising to me were Barkley and Shockey. Eli was less of a surprise only because it was obvious they were taking a QB, just didnt know which one.
Most surprising for me might have been Ron Dayne. Remember most didnt think he would do well in the NFL.
David Wilson
Ramses Barden
Phil Simms.
You beat me to the punch . I was going to say Phil Simms from Moorehead State
Quote from: Brooklyn Dave on April 22, 2024, 09:29:30 PMYou beat me to the punch . I was going to say Phil Simms from Moorehead State
Phil who?????
Quote from: PSUBeirut on April 22, 2024, 02:32:55 PMThe guy that sticks out to me as most surprising will always be Thomas Lewis. That dude was NOWHERE on my radar or anyone else's in the 1st round. I just remember watching the draft and the hosts all scrambling to see who he was and they didn't even have a graphic for the guy so all they patched together was a random screen shot with his helmet on from some game film. So embarrassing. =)) =)) =))
George Young could not draft a stud WR if he tried. His best was Earnest Gray in his very first draft. Issac Bruce was still on the board when he picked Lewis. Didn't he justify his pick reasoning that because of the swirling winds of old Giants Stadium he preferred short route guys over deep threats?
Quote from: TDToomer on April 23, 2024, 09:19:21 AMGeorge Young could not draft a stud WR if he tried. His best was Earnest Gray in his very first draft. Issac Bruce was still on the board when he picked Lewis. Didn't he justify his pick reasoning that because of the swirling winds of old Giants Stadium he preferred short route guys over deep threats?
That is a good point about George Young and WRs. Although with all the WRs he drafted, he did have a couple of hits with Toomer and Ed McCaffery (although his best work was with another team)