Did we not have a SB qb who had something left in the tank retire? I bet it had something to do with seeing no end to getting beat up behind the o line.
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Quote from: brownelvis54 on February 17, 2024, 08:50:04 PMEd, I agree. Thats a risk you have to take and be able to deal with the consequences. Having said that...I think the chances of JC Latham being there in the mid-first are a lot more likely than McCarthy being there in the mid-first. As the GM...if my 5 guys are gone, I am moving back and getting as many draft picks as possible, if my boy is gone then I am taking the best player I can get and defiantly looking for a guy that played exclusively at a RT in college and grabbing him with one of my two 2nd round picks.
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 15, 2024, 09:39:47 AMI will say this... After 5 seasons, Daniel Jones has not demonstrated that he can be anything other than an average QB in even the most ideal situations. He had one quarter of good performance against the Hapless Cards last season to come back and win the game after trailing for most of the game. If he had stayed healthy, most likely the Giants would be picking second in the Draft. His injury once again gives him a stay of execution. Mr.Checkdown who crumbles under pressure has the ability to perform well in an optimal environment but when the big moments come, it proves too big for him. No vision, no anticipation, and takes off running instead of moving outside the pocket to extend plays because he can't effectively throw on the run.
Tyrod Taylor outplayed him with the same Offensive Line issues. Tommy DeVito won games based on pure enthusiasm and not being a sad sack.
Looking at the career of Matt Stafford, he played a long time for a lousy organization and some pretty bad teams, but it was obvious that he was a good QB and when he went to a better team he had one great season that matched the 41 TD's and almost 5000 yards he had with the Lions. He's had his injury issues too but his worst healthy season was the only one with under 4000 yards and only 21 TD's.
The time for excuses and justifications is over. He is what he is. Mara is in love with the character of the man and how he represents the NY Giants. That is totally justified.
Quote from: Ed Vette on February 14, 2024, 11:20:26 PMI do but it's yet another rule change that distances the game from years gone by.
Quote from: coggs on February 12, 2024, 06:48:08 PMexaggerate much?
Quote from: Doc16LT56 on February 10, 2024, 09:41:20 PMWhy does trading back have to be the plan if no franchise QB is available? I agree it should be considered but it shouldn't be automatic. This team needs a few impact players a lot more than it needs a lot of average players. The last time the Giants had a shot at one of those guys they passed on an impact linebacker and an impact OL. They ended up with Toney who is long gone and Neal who isn't going to last much longer if he doesn't improve. And they still need an impact pass rusher and OL.
So who specifically are they trading back for? They'd better know and they'd better be right. Because even if they can't get a QB, they may have a shot at an impact receiver or OL.
It's not the quantity of the picks, it's the quality. It's always the quality. Accumulating more picks is a smart thing to do when you've done a good job with your evaluations and you know the top prospects aren't as good as people think. As far as I'm concerned, if they trade back, they'd better be sure they aren't passing on the chance to draft the next Justin Jefferson or the next Ryan Ramczyk.
Quote from: Trench on February 07, 2024, 09:22:24 PMSo far what I see is
Boring play calls.
Boring D.
Boring staff.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 20, 2024, 06:54:33 AMYes, that's right. There are pictures of Eli holding up a Chargers jersey at the draft. The trade occurred after that. It wasn't technically a trade-up (although in effect it was).
Quote from: katkavage on January 19, 2024, 08:34:05 PMAnything can go wrong. You can't draft scared. It's a risk business. Tiki forgets the Giants traded up to get Eli. I have no issue if Schoen feels strongly enough to do so to get his man. I really doubt very much that Jones will be football ready before October. Something has to be done.