Quote from: sxdxca38 on Today at 12:30:21 AMHi,You have an amazing way of just ignoring everything someone says and putting your own facts out there for interpretation. You acted like Jones beat all these Qbs when we all watched those games and know otherwise. I doubt if you polled the entire forum you'd be hard pressed to find multiple people that think Jones was the driving force behind our wins in 2022.
I don't really have any issues with you, and I'm sure you're probably a decent to nice person in real life, but you've made it pretty clear over the years that you really don't like Daniel Jones, as you are entitled to your opinion.
But,
With that being the case, from time to time there are some posts that people make that make me say "Did he really just say that?", and this just happens to be one of those posts that I've highlighted in bold up above.
Daniel Jones against the Jacksonville Jaguars won "Offensive Player of the Week" in 2022.
Would you like to know why?
He was 19/30, passed for over 200 yards, 1 TD 0 Int, 94.0 RTG 88.2 QBR
He also rushed 11 times for over 107 yards averaging 9.7 yard per carry, including 1 rushing TD.
His go-ahead rushing TD with 5:31 remaining put the Giants ahead for the win, 23-17.
And he was the first player in Giants history to pass for over 200 yards, and rush for over 100 in the same game.
Equaling over 300 yards of total offense.
He outperformed Trevor Lawrence in that game.
So, I'll ask, are you sure you want to hold your position?
Here is the link down below to show you he won offensive player of the week against Jacksonville.
Enjoy
Daniel Jones
Quote from: Giant Jim on Today at 12:17:29 AMOne player, one season? How many other teams have a revolving door for offensive line coaches? PFF is a poor stat I don't value.I listed 1 guy yes, but you can ask a ton of guys here, there are a ton of examples of players on the line leaving and playing exceptional elsewhere that couldn't do anything here.
Quote from: Uncle Mickey on Today at 09:44:05 AMMaye initially dropped my temperature to frigid levels. I see a budding Allen/Herbert when I watch his tape. McCarthy proved to be smoke. Right or wrong, Giants felt Pats asking price was just too big.Good post. You have to assess the schedule. As of today how many teams on that schedule will the Giants be favored?
I was peeved to say the least but as reality set in , I took a hard look at what we have now post draft both players and the ball coaches.
What exactly are we left with at QB? I try to look at common denominators between good play and bad play as much as possible to make a determination. Let's start at the beginning. Jones rookie year threw 24 TDs in just 12 games with pedestrian WRs. Shurmur was an above average offensive guy (who stunk as a HC) but route concepts had clear site lines and attacked multiple levels of the defense. Next couple years after, he had a hideous OC with that Garrett guy who only knew how to run hitches and curls all day. Basically all 5 years this kid not once had a receiver that could sniff a pro-bowl. The other common denominator was the offensive line was coached by a whos who of who not to hire as coaches. The only thing he had which was average or a smidge above was offensive coaching for a couple years. Most everything else is below to bottom barrell including numerous offensive lineman that were really
really just stinka-potumus at pass blocking.
I actually don't blame anyone of my blue feathered friends who has given up on him. There are reasons why it could be argued the other way. However, I have also seen QBs when the cast around them improve be it coaches or players their performance substantially improves too. I want to have a glimmer of hope this upcoming season.
So I'm kinda going from cup half empty with a crack at the bottom leaking to a cup half full perspective.
This just might be the first darn time Daniel will have:
* A true what we believe to be potentially elite WR1
* An offensive line coach that has what seems to be excellent credentials (top 10-12 finishes with an average line with two different squads)
* An offensive line with numerous players that project well in pass blocking. AT, Runyons metrics in pass pro are excellent. Eluemunor as both an RG or RT projects at least as average. JMS he was supposed to be the top OC in the 2023 draft. Then we will see what Bracillo can come up with for the final spot.
I choose to be disappointed yes but also cautiously optimistic that we could see something positive maybe even significantly better with a WR1 and an OL that actually pass blocks.