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If this is true, then why do we suck so bad? Is this proof of poor judgement and bad signings? The Giants are pouring money into an offensive line and getting no results..





Most expensive offenses in 2024:

1. $188.8M – Browns
2. $178.1M – Rams
3. $158.3M – Cowboys
4. $152.8M – Chiefs
5. $151.1M – Broncos
6. $148.5M – Giants
7. $146.5M – Cardinals
8. $141.6M – Falcons
9. $138.5M – 49ers
10. $135.9M – Colts
11. $135.2M – Panthers
12. $133.0M – Saints...




https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/22/giants-offense-sixth-most-expensive-nfl/

Two players come to mind.

A) Andrew Thomas
B) Daniel Jones

Those are two huge contracts at premium positions.

I saw that making the rounds earlier in the week.  I didn't see much value in this particular stat, as it doesn't tell the whole story.   A unit is built with money spent and draft capital spent.   Even those two measures can be skewed by the relative value of particular players signed or drafted.

Quote from: brownelvis54 on March 23, 2024, 11:10:31 AMIf this is true, then why do we suck so bad? 

2nd worst line in nfl history and an overpaid average QB that is a 7 year project 

Quote from: sxdxca38 on March 23, 2024, 11:31:42 AMTwo players come to mind.

A) Andrew Thomas
B) Daniel Jones

Those are two huge contracts at premium positions.

Every single team that is spending more than the Giants except KC has a bigger QB CAP hit than the Giants.

Don't forget about Darren Waller and his near $15 mil cap hit or Neal counting $6.6M against the cap.

Having to pay veteran linemen $5-6M/ye because they can't draft'em doesn't help either.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on March 23, 2024, 11:31:42 AMTwo players come to mind.

A) Andrew Thomas
B) Daniel Jones

Those are two huge contracts at premium positions.

waller second highest paid TE in the league as well

Detroit nowhere to be found on this list despite having a downright explosive offense... shows the power of good drafting.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 23, 2024, 02:56:26 PMDetroit nowhere to be found on this list despite having a downright explosive offense... shows the power of good drafting.

Exactly. Bad drafting is the single most reason the Giants have stunk for so long, imo!

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 23, 2024, 02:56:26 PMDetroit nowhere to be found on this list despite having a downright explosive offense... shows the power of good drafting.

I dont see the Ravens, Tampa Bay or Green Bay on the list either

brownE: Are you certain the list is current, or is there a chance it was compiled before Saquon departed?  Bob

Quote from: Bob In PA on March 23, 2024, 05:41:42 PMbrownE: Are you certain the list is current, or is there a chance it was compiled before Saquon departed?  Bob

Bob. The article was written. 03/22/24


link

https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/03/22/giants-offense-sixth-most-expensive-nfl/

Quote from: brownelvis54 on March 23, 2024, 06:48:18 PMBob. The article was written. 03/22/24

brownE: That's a stunner. Thanks for checking. I can't explain it, but off the cuff, it appears they need to get more 1st-contract players on the offensive payroll and cut a few veterans.  Looking over the roster, I don't see how they can do that. We seem to have as many 1st-contract players as all but a very few teams. Bob

There's a lot of bad teams on that list.

Here is top 10 cap hits for the Giants O for 2024:

Jones - 47.1 mill
Thomas - 23.2 mill (a bargain really)
Waller - 14 mill
Slayton - 8.1 mill
Neal - 6.7 mill
Runyan - 6.5 mill
Lock - 5 mill
Eluemunor - 4.75 mill
Singletary 3.75 mill
Robinson - 2.2 mill

Total 121.3 Million

Quote from: MightyGiants on March 23, 2024, 11:42:13 AMI saw that making the rounds earlier in the week.  I didn't see much value in this particular stat, as it doesn't tell the whole story.   A unit is built with money spent and draft capital spent.   Even those two measures can be skewed by the relative value of particular players signed or drafted.

Rich,

One of my issues with looking at this raw data is that it is just a snapshot of 2024.  If you have a player whose contract ballooned this year and is less next or was less the previous year, that has to be taken into account in some way shape or form.  Its sort of a lazy take.