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Thomas out vs. Seahawks

Started by JT39, September 30, 2023, 11:36:33 AM

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Rambo89

Quote from: JT39 on September 30, 2023, 02:21:45 PMPeople are so obsessed with the QB that they don't focus on other things.

31st in pass blocking
32nd in WR separation

The old saying that you can't make chicken salad out of chicken .....

If you don't have any confidence in him any did they pay him?
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

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JT39

Quote from: Rambo89 on September 30, 2023, 03:55:05 PMIf you don't have any confidence in him any did they pay him?

Cause they do have confidence in him. He doesn't block or run routes.

Rambo89

Quote from: JT39 on September 30, 2023, 04:17:21 PMCause they do have confidence in him. He doesn't block or run routes.

Then maybe that position isn't nearly as important as it's made out to be if it's so dependent upon others.
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

JT39

Quote from: Rambo89 on September 30, 2023, 04:25:02 PMThen maybe that position isn't nearly as important as it's made out to be if it's so dependent upon others.

So you're saying it's the QB job to block and run routes? That's just silly.

The giants OL without Thomas and the skill players without Barkley is arguably the worst in the league. Waller might be the only average player on the OL/skilled players. And he has stunk this year.

Expecting Jones to raise the level of play from these players is silly but I'm sure he will be blamed when we lose.

Jclayton92

Quote from: JT39 on September 30, 2023, 02:21:45 PMPeople are so obsessed with the QB that they don't focus on other things.

31st in pass blocking
32nd in WR separation

The old saying that you can't make chicken salad out of chicken .....
That can't be an excuse this year he got paid knowing if he did so it'd be to the expense of other positions. the line held up the entire back half of the cards game so it should be fine for a pedestrian Seahawks D line. Also they only do separation on completed passes and Jones won't throw down field so how much separation you think these guys can get on a 6 yard out?

Rambo89

Quote from: JT39 on September 30, 2023, 04:36:30 PMSo you're saying it's the QB job to block and run routes? That's just silly.

The giants OL without Thomas and the skill players without Barkley is arguably the worst in the league. Waller might be the only average player on the OL/skilled players. And he has stunk this year.

Expecting Jones to raise the level of play from these players is silly but I'm sure he will be blamed when we lose.

Then I guess it was a dumb idea to pay Jones what the Giants did because he's not that important what's important are the players he is surrounded by using the argument you are.
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

JT39

Quote from: Rambo89 on September 30, 2023, 05:42:13 PMThen I guess it was a dumb idea to pay Jones what the Giants did because he's not that important what's important are the players he is surrounded by using the argument you are.

Or maybe the front office screwed the pooch this off-season and it's last draft tools

They deserve criticism for this roster as well.

Rambo89

Quote from: JT39 on September 30, 2023, 07:00:10 PMOr maybe the front office screwed the pooch this off-season and it's last draft tools

They deserve criticism for this roster as well.

Investing as much cap space into the QB position took away cap space from the surrounding players that according to your logic are more important than the QB position itself.
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

JT39

Quote from: Rambo89 on September 30, 2023, 07:23:30 PMInvesting as much cap space into the QB position took away cap space from the surrounding players that according to your logic are more important than the QB position itself.

Ok it will be all Jones fault when they struggle cause he can't block or get open.

I'll save you 100 posts during the game thread. Just copy and paste it.

Rambo89

Quote from: JT39 on September 30, 2023, 07:27:16 PMOk it will be all Jones fault when they struggle cause he can't block or get open.

I'll save you 100 posts during the game thread. Just copy and paste it.

Then again the QB position isn't that important by your logic and shouldn't be taking up the most cap space on the roster.
"The Giants will never win a championship with Saquon Barkley" 4/26/18

Trench

We were told all summer long how wonderful he looked. At what point is it allowed to be Jones fault also?

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JT39

Meh. Who cares Thomas is out. He's replaceable, right?

kingm56

Quote from: JT39 on October 01, 2023, 08:58:11 AMMeh. Who cares Thomas is out. He's replaceable, right?

Do you consider every injury in a vacuum?  Thomas' injury is important; however, it's lessened this week as a byproduct of the Giants playing a team with limited pass-rushers. To that end, Thomas' replacement will be matched against a player with similar skill-sets; thus, it's not as detrimental as other weeks...this may be the best week to absorb said injury. Fortunately, thr Giants are not playing the Cowboys and M. Parsons...that would be a significant blow.  It's a fairly simple concept...