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Burns official!!

Started by killarich, March 11, 2024, 06:35:23 PM

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Quote from: MagicRat on March 11, 2024, 07:12:47 PMAbout the same age as OV was.
But, IMHO, this move places as much pressure on Thibs as anyone.
Burns is a complimentary edge guy.....have we overpaid for a number two edge?
Maybe. Time will tell.

If Burns is a complimentary edge guy being paid as 2nd best DLine men, what does that make Kayvon?


Schoen is awful at contracts.
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The Brian Burns discourse has resurfaced, I see.

Unsure if this is common knowledge: Burns finished '23 with 379 "pass rush reps"--2nd lowest of his career, and lowest since his rookie year. (Had 525 PR snaps in 2022)

Burns generated a sack once every 42.1 PR snaps (ranked ahead of Bosa, Maxx, Reddick, Hutch, etc)

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Quote from: EliWasrobbed on March 11, 2024, 07:51:14 PMIf Burns is a complimentary edge guy being paid as 2nd best DLine men, what does that make Kayvon?


Schoen is awful at contracts.

https://x.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1767317875235144051?s=20
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Quote from: EliWasrobbed on March 11, 2024, 07:51:14 PMIf Burns is a complimentary edge guy being paid as 2nd best DLine men, what does that make Kayvon?


Schoen is awful at contracts.

How is Burns a complementary guy? He's one of the premiere edge defenders in the sport.

Philosophers

Prior to this season, Burns was a DE in a 4-3 defense and had his most success.  This past season he was an outside LB in a 3-4 where he was less effective.

Wonder if we have to worry about scheme and position versatility with him.

What will Bowen run primarily as his DL scheme?

At 6'5" 250 pounds he is too small to be a DE in a 3-4 so would have to be an OLB.

Trench

Thibs should have a monster year with Dex and Burns and Okereke around.

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 Lets hope our new DC knows how to use these guys
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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on March 11, 2024, 07:06:08 PMWe need guys who will still be good three years from now. Not guys who are well past their peaks.

True, will be interested to see the contract structure.   Hoping its written in a way that he will still be viable against the cap in 3 years.

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Quote from: LennG on March 11, 2024, 09:21:15 PMLets hope our new DC knows how to use these guys

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Former GM Jeff Diamond grades the trade:


GIANTS ACQUIRE BURNS, SIGN HIM TO $150M DEAL
TRADE TERMS: BURNS FOR GIANTS' 2024 SECOND-, FIFTH-ROUND PICKS
CONTRACT TERMS: FIVE YEARS, $150 MILLION ($87.5 MILLION GUARANTEED)
The Carolina Panthers traded their 2019 first-round pick and top pass rusher to the New York Giants. For the G-Men, they capitalized on the opportunity to acquire a two-time Pro Bowl edge rusher who is only 25 years old without giving up a first-round pick.

The Giants are quickly signing Brian Burns to a five-year, $150 million contract with $87.5 million guaranteed after Burns could not get a long-term deal done in Carolina. Burns becomes the second-highest paid edge rusher behind Nick Bosa.  Burns played last season for $16 million on his fifth-year option after not being extended by the Panthers, who declined trade offers from the Rams among other teams over the last two years. The Panthers placed the franchise tag on Burns last week so he will get a big raise from the $24 million, one-year tender.

Burns has 46 career sacks. His production dropped a bit last season from career-highs in 2022 of 12.5 sacks, 22 QB hits, 63 tackles and 17 tackles-for-loss to eight sacks, 18 QB hits, 50 tackles and 16 tackles-for-loss. His departure creates a major hole in the Panthers' defense that ranked fourth last season but clears $24 million in cap room for the Panthers to make other moves.

The Giants now have an excellent pass rushing duo with first-rounders Burns and third-year edge rusher Kayvon Thibodeaux (11.5 sacks last season). They'll lead the effort to improve the pass rush that generated only 34 sacks in 2023 to rank 29th.

GIANTS GRADE: A-
PANTHERS GRADE: D

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