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Quote from: Painter on Today at 03:36:50 PM

Quote from: Painter on May 07, 2024, 12:17:38 PMQB- Neutral. There is no basis to suggest that Daniel Jones, even if healthy, will be any better or worse than he has been. Better depth, yes, as it could hardly have been worse. Still, it's really all about DJ.

RB- Neutral. Even if Barkley has a great year with the Eagles, as he did for a couple or three of his 6 seasons with the Giants, I can't help but to think of him as a "boom or bust" RB. That may be unfair, but I feel no loss in his departure. Still, while I am optimistic about the new additions and current roster, and so don't feel it to be Worse, I can't yet rate it as other than Neutral.

TE- Neutral. We can hope but there is no real basis to think or to say otherwise.

OL- Better. It could hardly have been worse. Except for questions regarding Neal and ORT, which I expect to sort itself out either there or at ORG and otherwise to be a better net roster overall.

DL- Better. Even with the loss of Williams at the 3-tech, I see the addition of Phillips plus Burns to Thibs and Ojulari at Edge or 4-Man as more than compensating for what proved to not be a good Wink D overall last year

LB- Better. Best in some time both Inside and Outside with those mentioned above and with Okereke, McFadden, and Simmons at MLB and ILB.

CB/Safety- Worse. Until proven otherwise, I can hope, but certainly can't say Better and feel that Neutral would be a bit of a cop out. I can say, however, that I am pleased to have Shane Bowen as the new DC. In regard to the play in and of the Secondary, I will guess off-the-ball / bend don't break coverage outside the 20s while none tougher/better/ stingier in the Redzone.

In any case, for now quien sabe?

You can infer what you will from my comments above re Ed's earlier query unless and until I feel a need for revision.

Cheers!

I think overall a slightly better roster than he inherited after three drafts and FA is pretty poor. Rich posted the five year average PFF support teams and 2022 the year he inherited was the best year for the Giants.

A neutral rating for QB and RB is reasonable but I'll point out that Barkley was four years younger. I believe the DL is worse but the Edge/OLB is stronger. Together that could be a neutral for me.

Quote from: brownelvis54 on Today at 02:11:05 PMEd you could say the same thing if Nix or Penix balls out too. Just because McCarthy does well with the Viking doesn't mean he would do the same on the Giants. The Vikings have a better roster, better line protection, better weapons on offense. I expect McCarthy to do well. In fact, I was a huge fan of his and I believe posted the first thread on him in October ...when it sadly looked like our season was already over. Thats how shitty this roster is/was, again, IMO we did the right thing in this years draft.





JJ McCarthy thread


https://giantsfans.net/message_board/index.php?topic=67961.msg919230#msg919230

The only difference in the roster would be the loss of Nabors. McCarthy might have been an upgrade over Jones. All the Hype over JJ and the ones pushing him, silent. Crickets... 🦗 He was right there for the taking. I would have easily taken Bo Nix on a trade back. The Vikings would have traded up for McCarthy with the Giants. Schoen wasn't serious about Maye. He offered much less than the going price. He wanted Nabors all along. If this season is over by November it will be because of Daniel Jones.

 

Or the worst draft if JJ McCarthy balls out.

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Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 10, 2024, 05:34:38 PMI think the more intuguing conversation at least initially is if Lock can come in if needed and replicate what tyrod did last season if called upon. Tyrods explosive plays and deep ball work was top notch last season.

I get Tyrod was a walking injury but he isn't an easy person to replace with his knowledge of the offense plus what he brings off the field in a leadership capacity.

Hopefully Lock understands this is a pivotal point in his career. A perfect opportunity to take a step back and blossom. If he screws this up he's done. If he can bide his time and be prepared, he can become relevant.

Quote from: EDjohnst1981 on May 10, 2024, 02:11:15 PMIt was dumb. Nothing more, nothing less. Let's hope he learns from it.

He reminds me of a younger me. Of course that was last week and I'm so much wiser now.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 10, 2024, 01:14:33 PMhttps://x.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/1788980708167278804

He's going to wind up getting his wings clipped. Let's see how mouths off to that.

Quote from: 4 Aces on May 10, 2024, 04:35:59 PMThe funny thing is, this is all absolute nonsense that has no bearing in reality whatsoever. It's stuff people are pulling out of their rear end and presenting as fact, which is basically everything you read and hear now.

Daniel Jones is the starter and Drew Lock is the backup. That's reality. I'd imagine every diehard Giants fan understands that.

This is worth repeating.

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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 09, 2024, 04:47:31 PMNot sure why yellow was such a problem for me.

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Yellow, Green, and Blue are the same difficulty level and type. Yellow is rarely my first match.

I stand corrected.

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