Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 01:18:22 PMSchoen has clearly indicated that there isn't a quarterback competition. Yet, you have Garafolo suggesting Lock might be able to compete. Will Lock be the starter or could there be a QB competition in camp?GM Schneider's claim was rebuked by Lock himself. He said the Giants told him they were bringing him in to be the backup.
https://twitter.com/awthentik/status/1785074659907584277
Now you have this:
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Theres more smoke around Drew Lock being #Giants starting QB over Daniel Jones, after #Seahawks GM Jon Schneider's comments earlier
@MoveTheSticks
podcast: 'I believe Drew Lock has a really good shot of winning that job.'
'They were comparing Daniel Jones and Drew Lock — emphasis on Drew Lock — to the QBs that were going to be there (in the draft) and I think the line for them was Drake Maye.'
This runs VERY contradictory to what Joe Schoen is saying publicly about Daniel Jones. They havent even opened it up to competition yet. But privately?
Remember, Daniel Jeremiah was ahead of the curve on Giants not drafting JJ McCarthy, too
https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1785357074852970740
Quote from: MightyGiants on Today at 09:41:40 PMThis is a very inaccurate framing of the sides and the issues. Based on this very thread, here is a proper description of the "sides."- On the one hand, you have people who are saying not to write Jones off just yet. They are not saying he will, but they are not ruling out the possibility that he will be successful again like he was in 2022. On the other side, you have people who are so certain of their assessments that Jones is a terrible or "middling" QB that they insist there is no possibility Jones can have another successful season, despite the, at least on paper, improvement of his support.I think this is fair. I wanted McCarthy at 6. I feel Jones is an injury risk, yet, I have not seen the actual medicals and have not been present for his recovery. From an above orbit, risk management standpoint, having Jones replacement on hand seemed valid. That said, in this offense in particular, Jones can succeed. He can throw short passes to playmakers. The best Jones has had is crappy playmakers in a system designed to have them. Daboll/Kafka system doesn't work without YAC. I want to see the kid with an average OL and some playmakers. I think his body ends up betraying him. If Jones is healthy he will look good in this system I suspect with these playmakers.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on Today at 06:43:28 PMClearly those who think Jones is this really good, franchise QB who has been a victim of circumstance are not going to change their minds about that, and those who think he is a middling talent aren't going to either.