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SI Article: 4 Players Who Will be Gone - Others questionable

Started by Jolly Blue Giant, January 09, 2024, 11:46:11 AM

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Jolly Blue Giant

This according to Sports Illustrated Fansided

1) Darnay Holmes, his contract is up and he hasn't proven to become a starter...and there are just too many better options on the team already - especially the emergence of Flott ["The Giants were hoping that Holmes could become a solid slot corner for a defense that needed it, yet in every opportunity he was given, he let the team down. It's unfortunate, because there really were a few moments in which Holmes looked like he could have been a real contributor..."]

2) Mark Glowinski, he hasn't played up to his previous status and it will save the team 5.4 million to cut him ["Through two seasons and 21 starts with New York, Glowinski allowed 52 pressures and 11 sacks. Interestingly enough, Glowinski also ranked top five in sacks allowed at his position in both seasons, which is insane considering he started just five games in 2023"]

3) Justin Pugh, at 33 yrs old, he just wasn't the player he was in his youth ["Pugh hardly looked like an NFL-caliber lineman, let alone a starting one. With how many offensive line issues the Giants have, Schoen can't afford to waste the money and roster spot on a player like Pugh, regardless of the locker room presence he may be..."]

4) Sterling Shepard, sad, but it's time ["Shepard is a player who will be missed greatly. He is the embodiment of what it means to be a New York Giant. Regardless of quarterback, record, or injury, it didn't matter, Shepard showed up, worked his tail off and never complained about the things around him. He was truly built for the New York spotlight and if not for injuries, he could have had a much more memorable career.

For the die-hard Giants fans, he'll always be remembered by what he meant to the team. What he brought both on the field and off will be nearly impossible to replace, and we wish him nothing but the best in his future endeavors...
"]

Other players chances of being gone:

Saquon Barkley
50:50
Adoree Jackson 50:50 [depends on what he'd take to stay...he won't make as much as if he leaves]
Tyrod Taylor 65:35 [this will come down to cost and Daboll's belief in DeVito]
Xavier McKinney ? (was his problem with Wink, or something else?)
Isaiah Simmons ? (did he show enough?)
Azeez Ojulari 40:60 (probably has a lot to do with what he expects to get paid...Giants will low-ball an offer)
Jihad Ward ? (good buddy with Wink and was well-liked by players...probably gone since he was Wink's guy)
Parris Campbell ? (never seemed to pan out...don't know what went wrong)

The joke I told yesterday was so funny that,
apparently, HR wants to hear it tomorrow  :laugh:

coggs

Agree with the 5 stated are gone.  For the maybes:  Barkley, McKinney, Simmons stay.  Jackson probably gone.  Taylore gone. Ojulari is another in the long line of day 2 pick failures, Ward?  eh, for cheap maybe.  Campbell? forgot he was on the team.  he was a waste


uconnjack8

I hope they are able to upgrade at guard enough that Pugh and Glowinski will be gone.  I don't expect Jackson or Ward back.

I think Barkley is gone this year especially after his "exit interview" comments. 

Schoen has shown that like most other GMs he doesn't like going into the draft with a glaring need at a position.  Not sure if some of these guys might get a 1 year deal to prevent that. 

PSUBeirut

I'd love to hang on to Tyrod, Simmons, and McKinney.  The rest, not so much.  I am 50-50 on Barkley.  If he can sign a reasonable, low cap hit deal (which wouldn't be the franchise tag), I want him back.  Mostly because it's not clear at all that we "hit" on Gray in the mid rounds, so if Barkley walks that's a glaring need to fill.

DaveBrown74

I wonder what Barkley will command in the open market in this offseason.


TONKA56

Quote from: PSUBeirut on January 09, 2024, 12:58:47 PMI'd love to hang on to Tyrod, Simmons, and McKinney.  The rest, not so much.  I am 50-50 on Barkley.  If he can sign a reasonable, low cap hit deal (which wouldn't be the franchise tag), I want him back.  Mostly because it's not clear at all that we "hit" on Gray in the mid rounds, so if Barkley walks that's a glaring need to fill.

Other than Barkley, take a look at the running backs we've drafted since Ahmad Bradshaw. It ain't pretty. David Wilson probably being the best had to retire early due to health, and he was really more of a third down specialist by skillset.

Jolly Blue Giant

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 09, 2024, 12:59:28 PMI wonder what Barkley will command in the open market in this offseason.


Hard to know. But he must be well aware that Zeke Elliott was passed on by most teams and finally settled for a 1-year, 3 million dollar contract with the Pats. Of course, Zeke should be well off if he invested the money he got from the Cowboys...and that's questionable. SB has most likely invested well...although, he did invest heavily in crypto, so who knows. Unlike Zeke, SB can probably make a lot of money in promotions, advertising and perhaps in broadcasting someday...especially in NYC where he is idolized by many. And he has mentioned more than once that he wanted to be a Giant for life  :-??
The joke I told yesterday was so funny that,
apparently, HR wants to hear it tomorrow  :laugh:

RelaxTension

Azeez Ojulari has another year on his contract.
Why does anyone think he will be cut with a salary of $2.1 million?
Enjoy the moment it's the only way to live..

AZGiantFan

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 09, 2024, 12:59:28 PMI wonder what Barkley will command in the open market in this offseason.



A lot less than a second franchise tag, IMO.  He should be begging to get tagged again.
I'd rather be a disappointed optimist than a vindicated pessimist. 

Not slowing my roll

PSUBeirut

Quote from: TONKA56 on January 09, 2024, 01:10:55 PMOther than Barkley, take a look at the running backs we've drafted since Ahmad Bradshaw. It ain't pretty. David Wilson probably being the best had to retire early due to health, and he was really more of a third down specialist by skillset.

It's not as easy as some folks on here would have you believe.  Just grab a random RB in rounds 4-6 and you're golden....  not quite.

Stringer Bell

Quote from: RelaxTension on January 09, 2024, 01:14:08 PMAzeez Ojulari has another year on his contract.
Why does anyone think he will be cut with a salary of $2.1 million?

Because he's constantly injured and a waste of a roster spot?

Jolly Blue Giant

Quote from: PSUBeirut on January 09, 2024, 01:38:16 PMIt's not as easy as some folks on here would have you believe.  Just grab a random RB in rounds 4-6 and you're golden....  not quite.

True, but you will also notice that RBs tend to excel behind a great line...something we haven't had in a long, long time. A team can get by with "running back by committee" when they have a line that makes holes big enough for my mother to get 3-yards. How many times have we seen Barkley creamed behind the line of scrimmage. It's like the QB is about to get sacked hard, so he hands the ball to Saquon and say, "here, you take the hit"...LOL. The offensive line is offensive to me
The joke I told yesterday was so funny that,
apparently, HR wants to hear it tomorrow  :laugh:

TDToomer

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 09, 2024, 01:47:17 PMBecause he's constantly injured and a waste of a roster spot?

We should have trade value if Schoen wants to move on.
"It's extra special against Dallas. That's absolutely a team I can't stand. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew anything about football." - Brandon Jacobs

Stringer Bell

Quote from: TDToomer on January 09, 2024, 02:40:40 PMWe should have trade value if Schoen wants to move on.

What kind of trade value do you expect for someone who's missed more than 30% of games over their career due to injury and is in the last year of his contract?

Not sure they'd get more than a conditional 7th rounder.

Rosehill Jimmy

Quote from: Stringer Bell on January 09, 2024, 01:47:17 PMBecause he's constantly injured and a waste of a roster spot?

I think this is in response to the original post which suggested that Ojulari chances of staying are dependent on what he thinks he should be paid and Giants making a low ball offer.  2024 is the last year of his rookie contract
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"