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They've blown it.  They'll get eliminated in next game.

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The Gallant Hours (James Cagney) was a nice movie which depicted Admiral Bull Halsey presence and tactical prowess.

Quote from: todge on May 30, 2024, 01:27:28 PMIt wasn't the same team. The key was the early loss of Thomas due to a hamstring. His replacement Ezeudu was totally overmatched. It was also the debut of a rookie C. The level of competition was also a huge difference the first six games. Jones had less than 2 seconds on average to throw the ball before there was a jailbreak into the backfield. Even Aikman commented that DJ didn't have a chance. Later on the addition of Pugh and the return of Thomas stabilized the OL somewhat.

If DeVito and Taylor moved the team better as you claim, then why isn't Taylor starting this year? DeVito is hanging onto a roster spot by a shoelace. DeVito was ultimately benched in the Saints game because he was woefully unprepared - he was far more interested in signing autographs than spending time in the QB room.

Your last take that Taylor and DeVito are more in demand than Jones is a total head scratcher. As is your inference that both QBs are better than Jones.

Jones isn't being traded under any circumstances. So I'm pretty sure you can abandon that hope. This is and always will be a team game and a QB needs protection and weapons to thrive. Give those to Jones and you will see success.


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Aikman also commented he's locked on recievers so it goes both ways with Jones. I haven't seen him working on this issue and I wish a best writer would ask why it is never done when other teams practice it all the time!

As stated earlier he's not a bad QB but he isn't great either. A good assessment.

Soft team that will be soundly eliminated in Florida.  Mika should be told to lift his NTC and be sent out of here.  Completely invisible and useless out there.  Panarin went from MVP like play during the season to just wanting to skate around the perimeter.  You can't win when your top line produces absolutely nothing.  Very stubborn by this coach to not move Lafreniere up to top PP line.  No adjustments and stubbornness from a HOF coach.

Two things about this series...

1.  Fox is definitely plying injured

2.  Equally as important Florida is just better at imposing their will and the Rangers are.

those 2 things it would take a heavy dose to "puck luck" to salvage this series.

Looking forward to no Trouba next year.

Giants must see more in Ezeudu than I do.  If he has to play much, either at OG or OT, we're in trouble.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 30, 2024, 09:38:22 PMHe was saying teams normally don't double down or hold onto bad mistakes. If a qb doesn't work within a couple seasons they are gone and yet despite that we still have Daniel Jones.

49ers, CHI twice, Pittsburgh, the Jets twice, and so many more that have drafted a nonelite qb and then released them to start fresh. The Giants however being outdated are still clinging onto the same not so great player.

Doing the same thing over and over just to get the same result.

Also Jones Contract has universally been acknowledged as a bad deal along with the Giants attempts to select a new "guy".

I think Y was just saying please let's try something different besides what we've been doing over and over that has failed.

But Daniel Jones did work in his first season in 2019

24 TDs to 12 Int's in 13 games

He also worked again in 2022

3900 total yards 22 TD's 5 Int 93.2 RTG 60.6 QBR ranked top six

So, it hasn't been the same thing over and over again with the same results.

Plus making playoffs and a playoff win.

Daboll and Schoen made the right decision.

They drafted an elite WR and improved the O line a bit.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 30, 2024, 09:31:51 PMFair enough,

however,

DJ is coming off a devastating acl injury and cannot fully participate yet, and he's still outshining the others.

While Lock and Devito are fully healthy.

Secondly,

DJ hasn't been in the same system for six years.

He is entering his 3rd year in Daboll's system.

This will be Devito's second.

And Lock his first, however Lock has been in the league for five years, entering his sixth, same as DJ.

I have nothing further to say, off to rest.

Jones is only participating in 1 7v7 set a day while everyone else participates in 11v11, but for 40 million he should look 10× better than a guy making 5 million. It shouldn't be a whew glad he looks better than our 5 million dollar backup. Does that not show just how bad off we are at the qb position? when our hope is, well I would really like our 40 million dollar qb to outplay the guy that was just brought in at a fraction of the cost and an undrafted player today.

Enjoy your rest 👊

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 30, 2024, 08:18:24 PMSo, let me get this straight, you are advocating for Daboll and Schoen to trade Daniel Jones, their starting QB right now. Okay, so quick question for you, who are they going to trade him too? And what player are they going to get in return?

Secondly, you claim Daniel Jones is a failure. May I ask a question then? In 2022 when the Giants made the playoffs and won a game, with Daniel Jones as the starting QB, were you advocating back then that he was an albatross and a failure?

Just curious?

He was saying teams normally don't double down or hold onto bad mistakes. If a qb doesn't work within a couple seasons they are gone and yet despite that we still have Daniel Jones.

49ers, CHI twice, Pittsburgh, the Jets twice, and so many more that have drafted a nonelite qb and then released them to start fresh. The Giants however being outdated are still clinging onto the same not so great player.

Doing the same thing over and over just to get the same result.

Also Jones Contract has universally been acknowledged as a bad deal along with the Giants attempts to select a new "guy".

I think Y was just saying please let's try something different besides what we've been doing over and over that has failed.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 30, 2024, 09:25:13 PMRich and myself were discussing Lock not Jones or Devito.

I'll still answer the question:

Jones in year 6 should be ahead of an undrafted qb and a backup. It shouldn't be a great thing to see, it should be a given.

He can't get any worse throwing deep than he has been the past 2 years, and now he won't be as mobile. So we should all be hopeful it improves.

Fair enough,

however,

DJ is coming off a devastating acl injury and cannot fully participate yet, and he's still outshining the others.

While Lock and Devito are fully healthy.

Secondly,

DJ hasn't been in the same system for six years.

He is entering his 3rd year in Daboll's system.

This will be Devito's second.

And Lock his first, however Lock has been in the league for five years, entering his sixth, same as DJ.

I have nothing further to say, off to rest.