Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on May 31, 2024, 04:42:21 PMThanks for the link. I've toured the New Jersey with my father and seen it quite a few times because it's hard to miss if you are ever in Philadelphia. If you can see the river (easy from Rt 95), you can't miss it, as it sticks out like a sore thumb. The Delaware River divides Pennsylvania and New Jersey. So the ship is on the other side of the river from the Philly side, so officially in Camden, NJ. It's just south of the Ben Franklin Bridge (north of the Walt Whitman Bridge)

The New Jersey lit up at night




When this picture was taken (property of the US Navy), my father was eleven stories high with headphones radioing down to the gunners in the turrets to indicate where the shells were landing and where to adjust


My Dad


Bull Halsey


the USS New Jersey BB62

Jolly - God bless your dad and all those who served and made "The Greatest Generation"....I cannot than you enough for sharing these pics. I'd love to hear any of his stories he passed along.

He's paid to be a Giant. If he can't cut it then cut your losses. Entitlement age

I worry that these one handed highlight catches can hand a negative effect and replace the traditional 2 hand catch

The Gallant Hours (James Cagney) was a nice movie which depicted Admiral Bull Halsey presence and tactical prowess.

Quote from: todge on May 30, 2024, 01:27:28 PMIt wasn't the same team. The key was the early loss of Thomas due to a hamstring. His replacement Ezeudu was totally overmatched. It was also the debut of a rookie C. The level of competition was also a huge difference the first six games. Jones had less than 2 seconds on average to throw the ball before there was a jailbreak into the backfield. Even Aikman commented that DJ didn't have a chance. Later on the addition of Pugh and the return of Thomas stabilized the OL somewhat.

If DeVito and Taylor moved the team better as you claim, then why isn't Taylor starting this year? DeVito is hanging onto a roster spot by a shoelace. DeVito was ultimately benched in the Saints game because he was woefully unprepared - he was far more interested in signing autographs than spending time in the QB room.

Your last take that Taylor and DeVito are more in demand than Jones is a total head scratcher. As is your inference that both QBs are better than Jones.

Jones isn't being traded under any circumstances. So I'm pretty sure you can abandon that hope. This is and always will be a team game and a QB needs protection and weapons to thrive. Give those to Jones and you will see success.


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Aikman also commented he's locked on recievers so it goes both ways with Jones. I haven't seen him working on this issue and I wish a best writer would ask why it is never done when other teams practice it all the time!

As stated earlier he's not a bad QB but he isn't great either. A good assessment.

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 27, 2024, 06:47:03 PMI get you, and you would think Daboll or a beat reporter would have asked DJ why he rarely does it?

It would more than likely improve his game, and take it to another level.

Agreed 100%. There are so many smart fans on this site - much smarter than me. I would love to hear from them on this issue. I respectfully ask you, should Jones at least work on this in practice and during drills?

Daniel Jones - and I blast him all the time but he's my guy right now

Quote from: sxdxca38 on May 27, 2024, 12:17:47 PMI've wondered that same thing myself.

Do the coaches not see that? Or do they not understand you have to look off the safety?

Or do they see that, but because it's just an OTA they don't care?

It would be nice if a beat reporter would ask that question so that we could get the right answer?

I watch so many other QBs in drills and practice who look one way and throw the other way. Rodgers literally discussed the importance in hard knocks and he practiced throwing without ever looking at his WR.

I just don't get it.

The problem is we have seen from OTA footage is this guy doesn't even practice looking off the DBs and safeties. The more I see of him during drills the more it becomes evident. I pray I'm wrong

For the life of me I can't understand why Jones doesn't at least "practice" looking off the secondary during drills. He is literally locked onto his WR almost every time from what I can surmise. Very frustrating to see.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 26, 2024, 12:03:35 PMThe Giants were 3-3 last year when DeVito started and 3-7 when he didn't. He also had the best QB rating of any Giant QB last year at 89.2. I personally don't think he will make the opening day 53, but he deserves the opportunity to at least compete in camp and the preseason.

Don't forget the Giants also signed Nathan Rourke, so we need to see how he figures into all this.

They have four QBs. Assuming Jones is healthy enough, he will be the starter, and then of the remaining three one will be the backup, one will likely be on the PS, and one will likely be sent packing. We'll see what happens.

One of those losses should be discounted because if my memory serves, he basically wasn't allowed to throw the ball that 1st game

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on May 26, 2024, 12:26:59 PMHe would be my candidate too. There is no player on the team who had a bigger 2022 to 2023 performance dip than Jones, so he is the most obvious candidate for a bounce-back as he has the most room to bounce back.

The more interesting question for me is whether he can be better in 2024 than he was in 2022. Being materially better than 2023 practically goes without saying. There is no way Jones is nearly as bad as he was in 2023.

I really hope so. And I also hope I will be coming on here admitting I was totally wrong about the guy if he lights it up

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 24, 2024, 03:43:29 PMThe solid majority of fans on this forum are very knowledgeable.   So I (and I assume @AZGiantFan  ) both see stating the obvious, that throwing well in OTAs does not guarantee success come September, as needless and it feels like it's said just so one can say something negative about the guy (it also feels a bit belittling as I certainly didn't need to be told about the meaning of OTAs).  Maybe I am wrong, and there was another reason it was said.   Maybe there has been just so much arguing and ill-feelings on this subject that there is over-sensitivity.

Rich,
I'm not sure what you are getting at?

Nabers on this team could open WanDale and Hyatt to have explosive plays

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 23, 2024, 04:21:16 PMHe did very well at Syracuse and Illinois.....big time programs
By contrast Jones was a big time loser at small time Duke

Where are we here, in a hall of mirrors?  DeVito is better than the robotic Jones by a country mile

The delta is that Jones is now Mara's very expensive adopted sun

It seems the Giants will let DeVito float and lost to waivers....he will wind up in NE as the next Tom Brady   My prediction

Jones has been touched by the hand of Mara.

Your love affair with Devito is worse than mine with Sills

But that is what makes it fun to be a fan. Staying loyal to what we believe to be true