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Had a promising few games in 21 or 22 but he's really a specials guy and someone that can actually tackle in the secondary. Believe he's only missed 4 tackles his whole time in the league.

Quote from: GloryDays on May 30, 2024, 04:22:21 PMi DON'T LIKE THAT MOVE... he is bright and he runs well. he will contribute on another team, if he doesnt go on our P S

He added zero value as an actual RB. We can find special teams players everywhere.

Quote from: MightyGiants on May 30, 2024, 02:54:11 PMI agree with your point to an extent.   I would have preferred to hear Lock was lighting it up and that there could be a QB competition.   I consider the Admittedly early reports on Lock less than ideal.

It's may, in shorts, in a new system etc so I'm not too concerned with anyone's progress rn. If it's the same come August that's another story.

I bet he is after having lemeuix, mckethan etc on either side of him last season.

I don't care who Starts as long as whoever is back there is moving and/or taking shots with the football down the field. It has to change this season.

Thank you

Quote from: todge on May 30, 2024, 01:27:28 PMIt wasn't the same team. The key was the early loss of Thomas due to a hamstring. His replacement Ezeudu was totally overmatched. It was also the debut of a rookie C. The level of competition was also a huge difference the first six games. Jones had less than 2 seconds on average to throw the ball before there was a jailbreak into the backfield. Even Aikman commented that DJ didn't have a chance. Later on the addition of Pugh and the return of Thomas stabilized the OL somewhat.

If DeVito and Taylor moved the team better as you claim, then why isn't Taylor starting this year? DeVito is hanging onto a roster spot by a shoelace. DeVito was ultimately benched in the Saints game because he was woefully unprepared - he was far more interested in signing autographs than spending time in the QB room.

Your last take that Taylor and DeVito are more in demand than Jones is a total head scratcher. As is your inference that both QBs are better than Jones.

Jones isn't being traded under any circumstances. So I'm pretty sure you can abandon that hope. This is and always will be a team game and a QB needs protection and weapons to thrive. Give those to Jones and you will see success.


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Taylor wasn't resigned because he went elsewhere for more money. He is being paid as the top backup Qb in the league for a reason.  His Big Time Throw rate was tops in the league last year and his adjusted EPA was top 15. He also threw the ball and connected deep almost 3 times the rate of Jones or Devito.

Was Taylor's play elite, no it wasn't but his play was significantly better than anything else we saw last year.

I would be over the moon if Jones replicated Taylor's stats/production last year over the course of this upcoming season.

It's still kinda wild in 2024 that the police arrest first and think later.

Quote from: bamagiantfan on May 30, 2024, 10:40:14 AMThe stats do lie though. Phil Simms would often say the stats in the NFL lie and the QBs get too much credit and too much blame for winning and losing. Manning could look lost, confused - even pathetic at times and then suddenly he would figure some things out and make every play necessary to beat teams. We all saw it. All of it. Jones hasn't taken that step yet in my opinion. Unlike others, I think he can and will.

I think it all boils down to his explosives/big time throws. If he can elevate his game to even 15th in Explosives and BTTR this season we could really do some things.

Jones isn't a bad qb, and he's not a great one either but he could be good enough which is all we really need currently.

Quote from: Philosophers on May 28, 2024, 06:03:10 PMJess - for a team to be aggressive offensively it takes a coach to trust the offense, a QB with a big play mindset but also trust in the defense to stop the other team if a big play misses causing a punt.

Do we have all that?

I think Daboll will trust the offense he runs as it has worked multiple other places. I think the defense will be the definition of bend don't break. Hopefully Jones, with less mobility focuses dowmfield more often.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-explosive-plays-and-re-thinking-offensive-success

Amazing read if you are into analytics and a real thought provoking read as we see how Daboll has built this offense.

Every position now has a piece capable of an explosive play whether its Nabers, Wan Dale, Slayton, Waller, and Singletary.

Singletary finished 13th in explosives last season despite less opportunities.

We have been horrible at EPA, Explosives, and Big time throws.

In Buffalo Daboll had Allen reaching tops in Explosives, BTTR, and EPA. You add that context to the team we've built, and you can tell he's laying a foundation.

If Dex, Burns, and Thibs light it up then it will allow Bobby Ok to feast and do what he does best. He's easily the best pure Mike in the Division already and was low key the best player on the field last season.

I heard a good comp for Tracy Jr the other day, and it was Cordarelle Patterson. A RB2 that can give you 600 yards rushing, 200 yards receiving, and handle kickoff duties.

People criminally underestimate the value Tyrod brought to the team.

Quote from: BluesCruz on May 27, 2024, 03:48:37 PMLOL ok whatever.....Taylor had the best arm of the bunch but had decision issues.
I don't get the non-issue part though

Do you see Tyrod returning somehow?  The Buffalo guys loved Tyrod and grossly overpaid him

You have no idea what you are talking about. Tyrod Taylor led the NFL in BTTR last year. Meaning he completed the hardest throws with the highest value of any qb in the league last year.

It's the reason that Devito was benched. Tyrod Taylor was easily the best option we had and it wasn't close analytically.

1st graph shows just how good tyrod was vs the league in big time throws.

2nd graph shows EPA after being adjusted for how bad a qbs pass protection, skill players etc and you can see how big of a difference Tyrod was vs Devito.