Big Blue Huddle

That sucks.  RIP, Chief

Quote from: MightyGiants on August 07, 2018, 11:07:08 AM
The good stands filled up and some people couldn't get a quality seat

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Are there really any "quality seats"?  The stands are not that high and nearly impossible to see anything on the far fields.  I did not attend this year, but the only alternative is to a) admit less people, thus upsetting more who can't attend or b) closing it to the public altogether.  I guess the could wait to open the parking lot, thus letting traffic build up on the tpke, like what happens on gameday as we get closer 5 hours before kick-off.  Guys who run my tailgate are in line to get in at 4am for a 1pm game.

Quote from: MightyGiants on August 06, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
I intend to write a letter to John Mara about the training camp fan experience.  There are plenty of ways they can improve on things.

Today was the practice for season ticket holders, so no real need to get there an hour early.  If they did, that is on them.  This is always the lightest in terms of attendance as opposed to those that are open to all.

Mine are gone.  But, I do have 2 left for the NE pre-season game.

Whoever is covering the Giants camp for NFL network said it was a very sloppy practice on Thursday.

Saw something on Twitter last night or this morning about Jerry getting 1st teams reps at RT.  Odd.

5 hours prior to kick-off is rule.  Not sure if they change it for pre-season.

Several are sold out, including the day I wanted to attend.

Tickets gone

Last night, Jay Brue hit a HR against the Cards in the 10th innings. Cards manager appealed that Bruce missed 1st base.  Then, came out and spoke to the 1st base umpire about doing a crew review (Cards had already lost their challenge).  Umpire agreed.  When they showed the replay, it was obvious he touched the base.  His whole foot stepped on top of the base.  It wasn't a question about just nipping the corner of the bag as he turned or anything like that.  Keith and Gary thought it was nuts that the ump entertained it and should have stuck with his call when it was that obvious. 

My thinking is Matheny knew the umpire did not look to see if Bruce touched the bag and said it when he went out to talk to him.

For me, it also depends on the topic and for how long the topic has been discussed.  I don't read every thread, as sometime the topic just doesn't interest me and if it is the 4th/5th thread on a topic in a week or in a day, then I am less likely to read it. 

I don't think it is off the table.  They still need a TE who will be a real threat in the passing game.

Quote from: LennG on December 03, 2016, 12:16:47 PM
Remembering the play, since there were 2 out and the runners are going, if the batter/runner was declared safe at first, the run would have to count. It isn't an award of bases, but a base hit/error, why wouldn't the runner from 3rd score?

And, according to the rule that I posted (one which I never really knew about, except in theory) the umpires are allowed to change a call and basically 'do the right thing' when a call is wrong.

Sorry, misread it.  Thought runner was originally on 2nd, went to 3rd on play and then when coach told him to keep going, went home.

Why would the interpreter tell you to score the run?  Once the umpire called out, thus the 3rd out, all action stops.  If the umpires then agree to change the call, nobody should be able to advance in the meantime except for runners who are between bases being allowed to take the next base.  In this case, it sounds like after the call was made, the player kept running. He was not at risk as why would the defense care about getting a 4th out?  If the runner was already on his way home and there was not going to be a play on him if the batter/runner was called safe, then he scores.  Otherwise, he should be at 3rd.  The rule you quoted gives the umpire authority to place runners.

As far as mechanics, agreed.  I was always told, if you need help ask BEFORE making a call.  I have worked with a few guys over the years who would refuse to back you up if you asked after making the call.  It had been drilled into our group that you do not ask in most situations after making the call.  So, in that situation, I call him out. Then ask for help?  They would overturn you everytime just to teach you to stop doing so.  One situation where it didn't happen.  Runner on first and second, less than 2 outs.  I was in C position.  Ground ball hit between first baseman and 2nd baseman, closer to 2nd.  As ball passed runner, it came very close to hitting him, but I could not tell for sure and it didn't have any weird trajectory after the apparent contact.  Coach of the team in the field screamed it hit him, I immediately put my hand up to acknowledge, but didn't say anything.  Just yelled, "PLAY IT! PLAY IT!"  After the play, I asked the plate man if he saw anything and he admitted he could tell either.  Play stood.  Yes, plate guy was one of the guys who would overturn you if you asked for help after making a call. 

Quote from: LennG on September 09, 2016, 11:12:29 AM
A lesson for future umpires and maybe others also.

Last night I ahd a Lillte Leabue game with one of our rookie umpires. I was the base umpire.

Situation, 2nd and 3rd, 2 out, batter hits a sharp 1 hp to the shortstop, he makes a great play sees the runner from 2nd going by and tries to tag him. Yhe runner evades the tag, but I felt he ran out of his baseline and called him out. Now the coach comes out to ask if the run had scored (the runner from 3rd was running home). I told him it was a timing play, if the runner crossed the plate before the man was called out, he would score. We appealed to the plate umpire, who is suppose to be watching this, but he didn't see it. (rookie, remember). Common sense told me that it would be near impossible for the guy to have made it home before I immediately called the runner out, so we didn't score the run.

It is an unusually situation as there is usually a put out and then see if the runner scores instead of a verbal out.

Anyway, I believe we got the call correct, even if the coach didn't see it that way.

The joys of working with rookies.

I had a similar play, but it wasn't with a rookie.  Len, you might have known him, as he has since passed, but worked for a few different outfits in LI and Queens during his time.

FABL, College Wood Bat League.  Bases loaded,  2 outs.  I am behind the plate, 2 man mechanics, partner was in C Position.  Routing ground ball to the SS, who fields it very close to baseline.  As he grabs ball, sees runner going to 3rd so sticks his arm out to make the tag.  Runner is in front of the fielder, so from behind the plate, I can't actually "see" the tag.  Now, here's the problem.  My partner, anticipating the throw to first, turned toward first before the tag was attempted.  Now what?  I had to make the call, and I called him out.  The player was a XXXXX, had problems with him for 2 seasons, so of course he wasn't willing to accept it.  I tossed him and I think his coach actually kicked him off the team by the end of the season.