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Shep has played only 26 snaps out of the offense's 188 snaps
Now normally when a WR isn't playing that many snaps (despite being active all 3 games) they are a key special teams contributor. Shep has taken zero special teams' snaps.
This sure looks like a waste of a valuable roster spot.
Loyalty
Quote from: MightyGiants on September 26, 2023, 12:54:48 PMI am using PFF
Shep has played only 26 snaps out of the offense's 188 snaps
Now normally when a WR isn't playing that many snaps (despite being active all 3 games) they are a key special teams contributor. Shep has taken zero special teams' snaps.
This sure looks like a waste of a valuable roster spot.
After week one they cut his snaps down... my issue with this is that Paris seems to be getting the huge chunk of the snaps at that spot... more snaps should be given to Wandale, Hyatt and some to shep
He's being kept as a leader to mentor Hyatt. There is a reason his locker is where it is. This more valuable than a 53rd guy who would replace him.
Loyalty and depth. Think there will be a certain point this season where the Giants may end up letting him go as long as Robinson and Hyatt step up their games consistently.
It is not the first time the Giants have been guided by emotion over common sense with an impactful decision.
Quote from: Rambo89 on September 26, 2023, 01:09:03 PMLoyalty and depth. Think there will be a certain point this season where the Giants may end up letting him go as long as Robinson and Hyatt step up their games consistently.
I am almost certain that when a vested vet like Shep is on the roster for week one, the rest of the season's salary is guaranteed.
Quote from: MightyGiants on September 26, 2023, 01:12:53 PMI am almost certain that when a vested vet like Shep is on the roster for week one, the rest of the season's salary is guaranteed.
Could they put him on IR to open up a roster spot if needed?
Quote from: Rambo89 on September 26, 2023, 01:15:36 PMCould they put him on IR to open up a roster spot if needed?
They can IR Shep. They can even cut Shep (although the team is still on the hook for his salary). I did confirm the guaranteed salary.
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/explaining-the-nfl-vested-veteran-week-1-rule-how-it-could-impact-free-agents/
Many teams will cut a player like Shep and sign him in week 2 so they are not on the hook for the guaranteed money.
I really wouldn't mind getting Shep some snaps. He is pretty sure handed when thrown to. I would like to see a few series with him in the slot. What the Giants have done so far obviously isn't working, get Shep in there and let's see if that shakes things up a bit. If nothing else, he will bring the emotion to a lineup that looked like they didn't want to be on the field with SF.
The solution is better pass protection and more Hyatt. We need to get the ball downfield. Good teams are overplaying these short passes.
When healthy, Shepard is the best WR the Giants have imo
I think this used to be true, but the injuries have taken their toll. I don't think he has the quicks to win in the slot anymore.
Quote from: sooners56 on September 26, 2023, 01:47:39 PMWhen healthy, Shepard is the best WR the Giants have imo
How do you IR a healthy player without the player and league calling foul?
Quote from: TDToomer on September 26, 2023, 02:16:13 PMHow do you IR a healthy player without the player and league calling foul?
If Shep is fully healthy and they put him on IR, the NFL could have an issue (if they find out). However, the bar to put a player on IR is pretty low. A players simply has to be unavailable for one practice.
The Reserve/Injured List, better known as injured reserve or IR, is a list for players who have suffered a football injury that makes them not immediately available to their team.
Quote from: MightyGiants on September 26, 2023, 02:18:56 PMIf Shep is fully healthy and they put him on IR, the NFL could have an issue (if they find out). However, the bar to put on IR is pretty low. A players simply has to be unavailable for one practice.
The Reserve/Injured List, better known as injured reserve or IR, is a list for players who have suffered a football injury that makes them not immediately available to their team.
What a joke.
Prior to the season it was a good debate here as a few people had mentioned he would make the team out of loyalty and veteran leadership. Odd man out in my mind was Sills
Sills is terrible. This obsession with him is baffling.
Stated it clearly in the summer.
I didn't like bringing him back.
He's offered nothing through six weeks. Maybe the front office/higher management get enamoured with a player and state they wish them to stick around.
I'd be surprised if that's the case but maybe there's a chance. He's ultimately proven to not be "dependable"
Edit - I meant 3 weeks.
He's here until Beasley is healthy
With the injuries we had at Wr last season the staff was likely spooked into keeping more Wrs than they actually needed.