Nothing against Matt Brieda but when Brightwell is in there he looks to be the better back.
I would be starting Brightwell, spelling him with Brieda and putting Robinson and Hyatt in the backfield
on occassion.
We see other teams like the Eagles, Dallas and KC putting speedsters in the backfield to great effect.
The Giants need to mix it up.
Also, if protection is that bad lets see some more 2 tight end play
I get it, the Giants want to run their standard offense with their standard depth chart but it's not
working too well so far.
Also the offensive line and special teams coaches probably need to be looked at seasons end if not sooner. At the rate we are sinking Daboll's job is about as secure as Ben McAdoo's was
Brightwell should be inactive. He cant catch, he has been awful on STs. We need to see what Gray can do as RB more than Gary Brightwell. Ill be shocked if Brightwell is on the team next year.
The Giants did run a fair amount of two TE play until Bellinger got hurt.
Quote from: Rambo89 on October 04, 2023, 09:37:22 AMThe Giants did run a fair amount of two TE play until Bellinger got hurt.
Losing Bellinger and JMS was a killer Monday night.
What did you see from Brightwell's 9 yards on 4 carry's and 10 yards on 1 reception, that makes you feel that way?
I couldn't believe he got dumped so easily by a CB
I was thinking Brightwell was someone the team should cut to send a message. Brightwell's personal foul (shoving a player long after the whistle) and running into the kicker seemed inexcusable.
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Quote from: Ed Vette on October 04, 2023, 09:43:04 AMLosing Bellinger and JMS was a killer Monday night.
I wasnt even aware Bellinger got hurt. Whats his prognosis?
I recall a lot of discussion on here last year about not getting too excited about the Giants. Seemed everything was breaking their way and the schedule was not nearly as brutal as this so far.
Maybe as the schedule lightens up we can get in a groove and salvage the season but hope is fading.
If I had to point to one thing its the lack of downfield passing. I understand the Oline is bad but there are ways to roll the pocket etc...even a flea flicker. Jones needs to forget about turnovers and air out that ball. Continuing this dink and dunk offense is suicide
Some will belittle him, but Ritchie James had a great rapore with Jones last year on the mid range passes....no one has stepped up to fill that role A little bit by Slayton of late
James should have been retained. Paris Campbell his replacement has been a disaster. Has the droppsies amidst other flaws. Not to mention he is grossly overpaid
Easy to see why the Colts let him walk
Quote from: uconnjack8 on October 04, 2023, 09:46:29 AMWhat did you see from Brightwell's 9 yards on 4 carry's and 10 yards on 1 reception, that makes you feel that way?
I couldn't believe he got dumped so easily by a CB
Bronco Nagurski would have had trouble running Monday. Seattle was ready for it.
Werent too many Giants standouts Monday
Brieda just doe not impress. Id love to see Hyatt, and Robinson back there also. Speed kills
I think Brightwell hits the hole quicker and harder than the others. Just an observation.
Quote from: MightyGiants on October 04, 2023, 09:47:45 AMI was thinking Brightwell was someone the team should cut to send a message. Brightwell's personal foul (shoving a player long after the whistle) and running into the kicker seemed inexcusable.
Wasn't really running into
More like pulling up trying to avoid it
Official called it harshly
Brightwell even held the guy up trying to avoid the kicker flopping
Giants are too easy on kickers
Haven't blocked one since biblical times
Is this a real thread.
Quote from: JT39 on October 04, 2023, 09:32:42 AMBrightwell should be inactive. He cant catch, he has been awful on STs. We need to see what Gray can do as RB more than Gary Brightwell. Ill be shocked if Brightwell is on the team next year.
I agree. He seems to be a waste on the roster. I cant imagine him being here next year
Quote from: BluesCruz on October 04, 2023, 12:08:54 PMWasn't really running into
More like pulling up trying to avoid it
Official called it harshly
Brightwell even held the guy up trying to avoid the kicker flopping
Giants are too easy on kickers
Haven't blocked one since biblical times
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If u want to send a real message fire the oline coach
Not like they could play worse
Brightwell hasn't shown me to be a good enough player and when he starts adding the penalties I would like to see him released.
Quote from: RelaxTension on October 04, 2023, 12:30:16 PMBrightwell hasn't shown me to be a good enough player and when he starts adding the penalties I would like to see him released.
Lots of pushing and shoving
Very chippy game
Wonder why
Was Pete Carrol behind all the mayhem
Quote from: BluesCruz on October 04, 2023, 12:41:38 PMLots of pushing and shoving
Very chippy game
Wonder why
Was Pete Carrol behind all the mayhem
:what:
Quote from: True Blue on October 04, 2023, 01:10:15 PM:what:
The game was extremely chippy, lots of mouthing off and pushing and shoving after the play
Caroll has been around the block a few times
someone told their team to add some mustard
I could not see Daboll doing it....to new to the HC role
There was a way to win that game but it would have been unorthodox
Overload one side, run Jones (or a RB) like a Wildcat QB then either commit, or pitch it to Robinson or Hyatt on a reverse
Run that all day College stuff but it would have completely changed the outcome
Also stop with the 4th and one push play....fake it and take off for the edge or pitch it out
Jones is fast enough to pull that off
lots of ways to beat 8 in the box but Daboll just keeps running the tired playbook he prefers
Quote from: BluesCruz on October 04, 2023, 01:49:33 PMThe game was extremely chippy, lots of mouthing off and pushing and shoving after the play
Caroll has been around the block a few times
someone told their team to add some mustard
I could not see Daboll doing it....to new to the HC role
There was a way to win that game but it would have been unorthodox
Overload one side, run Jones (or a RB) like a Wildcat QB then either commit, or pitch it to Robinson or Hyatt on a reverse
Run that all day College stuff but it would have completely changed the outcome
Also stop with the 4th and one push play....fake it and take off for the edge or pitch it out
Jones is fast enough to pull that off
lots of ways to beat 8 in the box but Daboll just keeps running the tired playbook he prefers
Huh?
The way to win the game was making plays through the air which as we have seen on the game tape there were plays that were missed with 2 of them being turnovers that resulted in 14 points for Seattle. Seattle's defensive weakness is their pass defense not their run defense. Their run defense is their strength.
Brightwell should be playing in the XFL not the NFL period. An elderly back in Breida has more game than Brightwell and yet here we are again.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 04, 2023, 02:50:04 PMBrightwell should be playing in the XFL not the NFL period. An elderly back in Breida has more game than Brightwell and yet here we are again.
I wonder if Brightwell could start for the XFL now lol 😂
I think cutting NotBrightwell is on pause until Barkley is active. Then he can be inactive. Then they can try to resign James Robinson who is still on the street.
Quote from: Jclayton92 on October 04, 2023, 02:50:04 PMBrightwell should be playing in the XFL not the NFL period. An elderly back in Breida has more game than Brightwell and yet here we are again.
The Breida I saw on Monday night couldn`t keep his feet on a wide-open pass. Looked like a Pop Warner kid falling down.