For a long, long time, it has seemed like Dallas is usually one of the most talented teams in the league. They do quite well in the regular season, and then they get bounced quickly in the playoffs. Why do you think that it keeps happening?
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The Boys beat us by like 60 points and we handled the Packers pretty well.
I can only conclude the Boys were taking the Packers too lightly and Dak played very tightly wound until the Packers went "prevent"
Also their great LBer Micah Parsons did not show up. Their pass rush was awful and they did not blitz
Strange....I think they thought they had a free pass at home this year
Their DC Dan Quinn should not get his check this week
McCarthy looked dumb struck....gotta get your team ready for playoff intensity Mike
Sorry Rich I was typing my missive while you did this one. Didnt see it
please Merge them :ok:
Jerry did Jimmy dirty and his punishment is to never win another championship.
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 14, 2024, 08:25:56 PMFor a long, long time, it has seemed like Dallas is usually one of the most talented teams in the league. They do quite well in the regular season, and then they get bounced quickly in the playoffs. Why do you think that it keeps happening?
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I'll take the 12 wins for three years. Every win is a good day. But to answer the question, they come to play with a passion for some games and other games they are flat. Look at their schedule. They usually feast on bad teams and play close to good teams. I think some of it falls on Prescott who has great games and folds under pressure. He had opportunities today to come back and he missed seeing open Receivers. I felt that if Aaron Rodgers was in the game, Dallas at least comes a lot closer.
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Quote from: Ed Vette on January 14, 2024, 09:16:13 PMI'll take the 12 wins for three years. Every win is a good day. But to answer the question, they come to play with a passion for some games and other games they are flat. Look at their schedule. They usually feast on bad teams and play close to good teams. I think some of it falls on Prescott who has great games and folds under pressure. He had opportunities today to come back and he missed seeing open Receivers. I felt that if Aaron Rodgers was in the game, Dallas at least comes a lot closer.
Not only did he miss receivers, but those two pick-sixes were killer
I suspect it may come down to character. The Cowboys are brilliant at drafting poor character players and babysitting them so they stay out of trouble. They are able to draft and sign players who simply would crash and burn on other teams. Hiding character flaws may work well when it comes to regular games; when the playoffs arrive, the team's true character shines through and no longer is hidden.
I am far from certain that is the reason, but it's my suspicion
Quote from: T200 on January 14, 2024, 09:09:43 PMJerry did Jimmy dirty and his punishment is to never win another championship.
Nah, they won another after that with Barry Switzer.
It was the NFC Championship Game hubris with the tickets on each player's stool that ticked off the football gods and got them cursed.
Quote from: Ed Vette on January 14, 2024, 09:16:13 PMI'll take the 12 wins for three years. Every win is a good day. But to answer the question, they come to play with a passion for some games and other games they are flat. Look at their schedule. They usually feast on bad teams and play close to good teams. I think some of it falls on Prescott who has great games and folds under pressure. He had opportunities today to come back and he missed seeing open Receivers. I felt that if Aaron Rodgers was in the game, Dallas at least comes a lot closer.
Ed
I agree I would take relevance and being on a shortlist of potential super bowl teams annually. It does have to make these playoff losses all the worse though. Cannot imagine this place if it was the Giants who lost that game with 12 wins.
To answer the OP - I think it's not one but a number of things. On offense they didnt have anyone step up early in the game and make a play. It's tough to when your QB is throwing the ball to the other team, but Ceedee dropped a pass or two early.
They were thoroughly out coached. On both sides of the ball.
Overall it feels like in big games the team doesn't have real leadership. Dak is good in the regular season when they play less talented teams, but comes up short in big spots.
Quote from: AZGiantFan on January 15, 2024, 08:55:30 AMNah, they won another after that with Barry Switzer.
It was the NFC Championship Game hubris with the tickets on each player's stool that ticked off the football gods and got them cursed.
Barry who? He gets an asterisk.
Jimmy Johnson built that team into a fine-tuned championship machine. The only thing that was going to stop them from winning that season was a major injury. Switzer was the elf on the shelf.
I believe the problem with the Cowboys is that they have no grit. As someone said, "Jerry loves the sizzle", and so he puts together flashy, higlight reel teams to market "The Brand". They get great "garbage time" stats and beat up on the weaker teams in the league, but when someone comes to play big boy football, they fold. They cannot handle the pressure it takes to win.
I am listening to Dallas radio this morning (and loving it!) and a good point was made that Prescott is another of their problems. His stats are great, potential MVP :sick: and all that, but thru 4 coaching regimes, he hasn't ever delivered in the playoffs. He fits the Dallas mold perfectly - all flash and no grit along with a sense of entitlement that all teams should roll over because they are playing the Dallas Cowboys.
Quote from: ozzie on January 15, 2024, 09:30:38 AMI believe the problem with the Cowboys is that they have no grit. As someone said, "Jerry loves the sizzle", and so he puts together flashy, higlight reel teams to market "The Brand". They get great "garbage time" stats and beat up on the weaker teams in the league, but when someone comes to play big boy football, they fold. They cannot handle the pressure it takes to win.
I am listening to Dallas radio this morning (and loving it!) and a good point was made that Prescott is another of their problems. His stats are great, potential MVP :sick: and all that, but thru 4 coaching regimes, he hasn't ever delivered in the playoffs. He fits the Dallas mold perfectly - all flash and no grit along with a sense of entitlement that all teams should roll over because they are playing the Dallas Cowboys.
Isn't the Texas saying- All hat and no cattle?
Mark Sanchez has the same amount of playoff wins as Romo and Prescott combined.
The Cowboys defense has to take a big hit here. A short field INT and pick six didn't help but they let the Packers offense steamroll them.
Quote from: Messiah717 on January 15, 2024, 10:33:38 AMThe Cowboys defense has to take a big hit here. A short field INT and pick six didn't help but they let the Packers offense steamroll them.
The Cowboy's defense was used to playing with big leads, which naturally limited the opposing offense's running games. Since the Packers led from the get-go, the Cowboys' defense struggled to handle a team that was just as likely to run as they were to pass.
Let's have no more Parsons is LT redux. You could see it coming..talk is cheap..stars in his eyes..delusions. He vanished again. Presto.
It is classic Cowboys arrogance. It starts at the top filtering on down.
Every year Jerrah pumps up the helium hype and it pops in the Pokes' grasp. Waaaah.
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 15, 2024, 10:36:07 AMThe Cowboy's defense was used to playing with big leads, which naturally limited the opposing offense's running games. Since the Packers led from the get-go, the Cowboys' defense struggled to handle a team that was just as likely to run as they were to pass.
It's amazing how Aaron Jones just completely owns them.
Quote from: spiderblue43 on January 15, 2024, 10:52:46 AMLet's have no more Parsons is LT redux. You could see it coming..talk is cheap..stars in his eyes..delusions. He vanished again. Presto.
It is classic Cowboys arrogance. It starts at the top filtering on down.
Every year Jerrah pumps up the helium hype and it pops in the Pokes' grasp. Waaaah.
LT came up big when the team needed him to come up big.
Parsons generated a very average 62.1 grade when the team needed him most.
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I was listening to ESPN this AM and they showed what GB was doing to neutralize Parsons and it was so simple I'm surprised other teams don't do it.
Plus the Pukes only rushed 4 guys all game with 6 DBs and GB still had guys completely wide open.
As to the OP question, I think because of JJ, they play under tremendous pressure to win it all. During the regular season, it is almost a sure thing that they make the playoffs, so there really isn't that much pressure, but come 'win or go home', JJ puts so much into winning it all that they are so tight and just don't play their natural game.
I put this all on JJ and not on McCarthy or the players. although they all choked. Isn't it great?
Quote from: T200 on January 15, 2024, 09:27:47 AMBarry who? He gets an asterisk.
Jimmy Johnson built that team into a fine-tuned championship machine. The only thing that was going to stop them from winning that season was a major injury. Switzer was the elf on the shelf.
But, can Jimmy Johnson do the bossa nova, the dance of love?
Quote from: spiderblue43 on January 15, 2024, 10:52:46 AMLet's have no more Parsons is LT redux. You could see it coming..talk is cheap..stars in his eyes..delusions. He vanished again. Presto.
It is classic Cowboys arrogance. It starts at the top filtering on down.
Every year Jerrah pumps up the helium hype and it pops in the Pokes' grasp. Waaaah.
To be fair, if we were having 12 win seasons here we'd have sky high expectations too. I wouldn't really call that arrogance, per se. It's just optimism and confidence.
Hell, you had some here calling for a "special season" in 2023 because Jones looked crisp on his throws in 7 on 7 drills in early August and they had a good first quarter series against the Panthers in a preseason game. Imagine what it would be like around here if we won the division and had the two seed in the NFC.
I think people didnt realize how good the packers are
3 very good WRs
A good rb
And a very good QB
Quote from: MightyGiants on January 15, 2024, 07:17:22 AMNot only did he miss receivers, but those two pick-sixes were killer
Then he padded his stats in garbage time. People will look back at his stats in the future and think he played okay when in reality he was terrible when it mattered.
Quote from: ralphpal1 on January 15, 2024, 11:12:32 AMI think people didnt realize how good the packers are
3 very good WRs
A good rb
And a very good QB
People who were paying attention noticed them. They came on very strong in the second half. 6-2 in their last eight games I believe.
Also, they constantly had various people out during the season. Christian Watson, Aaron Jones, Jaire Alexander, and others were constantly missing time. This is about as healthy as they've been I think. Plus Love has really blossomed. He looked really good last night as well as late in the season.
Dave,
How about overconfidence? They beat up mostly on tomato cans all year. How about looking so unprepared? Its been a trend for 28 years.
The fan base..the Skippys..Michael Irvins of the world also led the way. Why would Cowboy faithful drink the JerryAid again? Because that is their nature.
How Bout Dem Cowboys!!!
The problem is that with Jerry the show is more important than the team. Give me a team like the Packers any day over the yearly Barnum and Bailey's Circus.
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on January 15, 2024, 11:09:23 AMTo be fair, if we were having 12 win seasons here we'd have sky high expectations too. I wouldn't really call that arrogance, per se. It's just optimism and confidence.
Hell, you had some here calling for a "special season" in 2023 because Jones looked crisp on his throws in 7 on 7 drills in early August and they had a good first quarter series against the Panthers in a preseason game. Imagine what it would be like around here if we won the division and had the two seed in the NFC.
Our friend Tomeee would say in the parking lot before and after another bitter loss, "I would be happy to have meaningful games in December".
RIP
"How bad them Cowboys!"
Quote from: ozzie on January 15, 2024, 09:30:38 AMI believe the problem with the Cowboys is that they have no grit. As someone said, "Jerry loves the sizzle", and so he puts together flashy, higlight reel teams to market "The Brand". They get great "garbage time" stats and beat up on the weaker teams in the league, but when someone comes to play big boy football, they fold. They cannot handle the pressure it takes to win.
I am listening to Dallas radio this morning (and loving it!) and a good point was made that Prescott is another of their problems. His stats are great, potential MVP :sick: and all that, but thru 4 coaching regimes, he hasn't ever delivered in the playoffs. He fits the Dallas mold perfectly - all flash and no grit along with a sense of entitlement that all teams should roll over because they are playing the Dallas Cowboys.
Prescott finished with 403 yards passing, 3 TDs, and a 68% completion pct yesterday :confused:
I think the issue is compounded by the HC. Choking in the playoffs is something Mike McCarthy was doing for years before he came to Dallas.
I think there's an arrogance and complacency around Dallas in the post-season. Like Ed mentioned above with the plane tickets on the stools in the Divisional Round against the Giants.
Perhaps some of the criticism is warranted - Dallas had a very good season, 12 wins, a division title and some fantastic numbers for Dak. But they seemingly come up short in the post-season. Maybe it's because there are no easy games and the Packers were hot coming in. Dallas didn't look ready to play at all, a stat was on the broadcast last night - they are 2-5 (now 2-6) when the opponent scores first.
Maybe they are just front running bullies.
Either way, I found last night to be delightful. I just would have liked to have seen more of Jerry.
Quote from: AYM on January 15, 2024, 01:37:32 PMPrescott finished with 403 yards passing, 3 TDs, and a 68% completion pct yesterday :confused:
I think the issue is compounded by the HC. Choking in the playoffs is something Mike McCarthy was doing for years before he came to Dallas.
Don't forget the 2 interceptions with one returned for a TD. :P <:-P
Quote from: TDToomer on January 15, 2024, 04:03:52 PMDon't forget the 2 interceptions with one returned for a TD. :P <:-P
and most of those yards were when Packers were in a prevent D
At this point, Jerry Jones is 81 years old and desparately wants another Super Bowl.
He doesn't have time to do a rebuild. At least he doesn't think he does. He's also not gonna change.
Maybe he brings in Belichick as a last-resort. But I don't see that geriatric tag-team working out, even if Belichick doesn't insist on some say over personnel. For all his genius, Belichick has now been eclipsed by younger, more creative, geniuses.
I think the Cowboys' problem is that they are way too soft and, if anything, Jerry is too willing to overlook behavioral issues and players taking shortcuts.
Quote from: Symphony Steve on January 15, 2024, 07:52:57 PMAt this point, Jerry Jones is 81 years old and desparately wants another Super Bowl.
He doesn't have time to do a rebuild. At least he doesn't think he does. He's also not gonna change.
Maybe he brings in Belichick as a last-resort. But I don't see that geriatric tag-team working out, even if Belichick doesn't insist on some say over personnel. For all his genius, Belichick has now been eclipsed by younger, more creative, geniuses.
I think the Cowboys' problem is that they are way too soft and, if anything, Jerry is too willing to overlook behavioral issues and players taking shortcuts.
I dont know. Belichick might be just what they needed.
He will certainly command respect and bring discipline
Like Justin Tuck would say "They have no heart" I have thought for years they were overrated coming into every season, like someone said in an earlier post the Jerry hype machine was in play.
Pressure. Everything Jerry says and does creates a Super Bowl or bust vibe every second of every day across that organisation. To function under such relentless expectation and meet it requires every part of the organisation to have the resilience to fire on all cylinders day after day as every blip or glitch gets scrutinised and magnified. Sooner or later something critical fails, be it HC or coordinators or QB.
An in-season failure can be patched up and glossed over but in the play-offs the external pressures also intensify as you go home if something blows up under this extra intensity. Unless and until Jerry figures out it is his job to reduce not magnify pressure and expectation it can only change if you get a peak BB/Brady combo who thrive on pressure. They are rare birds.