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Title: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: MightyGiants on February 13, 2024, 04:45:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGP1umjWcAA6pBS?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

https://x.com/Doug_Analytics/status/1757519274921300053?s=20
Title: Re: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: Bob In PA on February 13, 2024, 04:52:37 PM
Rich: Stop doing the hard work of proving what you and I (and some others) know to be true.    /sarcasm/

Those who want to believe otherwise will not be convinced.

IMO.

Bob
Title: Re: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: B1GBLUE on February 13, 2024, 04:55:31 PM
It does, but it also shows 3 or 4 pro bowl or close to that level guys in the bottom 10 as well. granted they have elite receivers. maybe theres more to that than meets the eye.
Title: Re: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: Bob In PA on February 13, 2024, 05:04:52 PM
Quote from: B1GBLUE on February 13, 2024, 04:55:31 PMIt does, but it also shows 3 or 4 pro bowl or close to that level guys in the bottom 10 as well. granted they have elite receivers. maybe theres more to that than meets the eye.

B-one: It's true, but weigh the various teams' WR corps against one another, especially the top WR of each. Bob
Title: Re: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: UKGiantsFan on February 14, 2024, 02:16:43 AM
PFF: Worst QB's in terms of allowing pressure to be converted into sacks (https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1757465944824193328?t=B6H6jkgUhz2L0h-n2i7KAA&s=19)

Two things may also be true here...
Title: Re: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: MightyGiants on February 14, 2024, 09:08:52 AM
Quote from: UKGiantsFan on February 14, 2024, 02:16:43 AMPFF: Worst QB's in terms of allowing pressure to be converted into sacks (https://twitter.com/Ihartitz/status/1757465944824193328?t=B6H6jkgUhz2L0h-n2i7KAA&s=19)

Two things may also be true here...

I think it's worth noting that when the pass rush comes that quickly (to get there that quickly, there is usually at least one blown blocking assignment, if not more), it's a lot harder for a QB not to be sacked.
Title: Re: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: katkavage on February 14, 2024, 09:38:04 AM
As Ceri said, two things can be true. In Jones case, he faced immense pressure because of a porous offensive line. He also was very bad at dealing with pressure and helped create sacks. The excuses for Jones at some point have to cease. Everyone knows that given time most competent QBs can be successful. It's the QBs who can make plays under pressure who are special.
Title: Re: This chart shows how Daniel Jones faced mission impossible
Post by: Bob In PA on February 14, 2024, 01:23:19 PM
Really good points being made (pro and con); surprised there are so few posters thus far. Bob