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Title: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: Stringer Bell on April 17, 2024, 06:09:17 PM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39963826/giants-leading-receiver-darius-slayton-skips-workouts-seeks-new-deal (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39963826/giants-leading-receiver-darius-slayton-skips-workouts-seeks-new-deal)

My feelings on Slayton are identical to Saquon. I'm fine bringing him back on team-friendly terms but am not interested in committing to him long term or at full-market rates.

Slayton has been consistent, sure, but he's still a #3 WR on a good team, and he's not someone I'm looking to spend big money on. The team needs a true #1 and to carve out reps for Hyatt and Wan'dale.

I say let Slayton play out his contract and let him test the FA waters after the season.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: Giant Obsession on April 17, 2024, 06:22:21 PM
Keep skipping Slayton.  The UFL and CFL always need roster fodder WR with no separation (except for the occasional fly pattern)and hands that ...well let's be nice....have a tendency to be suspect.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: MightyGiants on April 17, 2024, 06:43:31 PM
It's costing Slayton $350K to skip those workouts.  With all this talk of the Giants drafting a true number-one WR, I suspect Slayton is concerned about his long-term future.  His numbers could be way down this season if the new WR, Hyatt, and Robinson take the lion's share of the receiver snaps
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: uconnjack8 on April 17, 2024, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 17, 2024, 06:43:31 PMIt's costing Slayton $350K to skip those workouts.  With all this talk of the Giants drafting a true number-one WR, I suspect Slayton is concerned about his long-term future.  His numbers could be way down this season if the new WR, Hyatt, and Robinson take the lion's share of the receiver snaps

I think he will potentially be traded during the draft. 
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: DaveBrown74 on April 17, 2024, 08:57:25 PM
Slayton is a "meh" player. A classic JAG (just a guy).

Giants fans may like him because he's been on the team for several years and is decent, but he's far from special. He would not be difficult to replace. I have no problem with him, but I also have no interest in stretching financially (above fair market value) to keep him here.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: Jclayton92 on April 17, 2024, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: DaveBrown74 on April 17, 2024, 08:57:25 PMSlayton is a "meh" player. A classic JAG (just a guy).

Giants fans may like him because he's been on the team for several years and is decent, but he's far from special. He would not be difficult to replace. I have no problem with him, but I also have no interest in stretching financially (above fair market value) to keep him here.
I didn't think he was worth the 2 yr 12 million he got. Love was the exact same price tag and 10× the player and we chose Slayton.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: Painter on April 17, 2024, 09:30:49 PM
It's not hard to see why given that the $350K workout bonus is small change when he compares his current 2024 $6.2 million contract to those of others: e.g., Gabe Davis and Darnell Mooney who have been less productive yet are paid more than twice as much.

Slayton has had between 724 and 770 yards per as the Giants leading WR for 4 of the past 5 seasons while during that time his 15.1 yards per reception are fourth most among the 79 pass-catchers with 200-plus receptions. But chances are he now is concerned that if, as is likely, the Giants add a much more highly rated, and productive WR1 to go with the still developing Hyatt and Robinson, it will be at the expense of his production and future with the team.

And if so, good luck and best wishes to him.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: Trench on April 17, 2024, 10:13:40 PM
See ya Slay....tou ain't worth it. Too many drops for my liking. Either you are in or you are out. Don't show up and I say you're a diva. See ya
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: EDjohnst1981 on April 18, 2024, 05:48:55 AM
I think he's reached his ceiling and is replaceable. However, a lot of people say you can get a good RB late in the draft and the Giants haven't hit on one since Bradshaw - despite giving it a go.

Sometimes it's better the devil you know. Tough choice for JS and company.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: Philosophers on April 18, 2024, 09:23:24 AM
He's the most at risk of loss in playing time should Nabers or Odunze be drafted.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 09:25:57 AM
I suspect Slayton would be less confirmed if this wasn't the final year of his contract.   Slayton needs to have a productive season if he wants to get a decent third contract.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: T200 on April 18, 2024, 09:32:00 AM
I think he'll get paid handsomely by another team.

He was a good soldier for us. One of the few bright spots we had.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 09:34:52 AM
Quote from: T200 on April 18, 2024, 09:32:00 AMI think he'll get paid handsomely by another team.

He was a good soldier for us. One of the few bright spots we had.

I think Slayton is underappreciated.   As @Painter mentioned, Slayton has quietly been the leading WR for 4 of the past 5 seasons. 
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: uconnjack8 on April 18, 2024, 10:35:06 AM
Slayton is a solid stretch the defense guy.  He is not a #1 or X or however you want to state it.  As the Giants leading receiver in 4 of the last 5 years, he is being covered by guys that cover #1s and has still been productive on a team that hasnt had good pass protection or consistent QB play.  I think he is trade bait at some point, be it during the draft or afterwards. 

There are some teams with good QBs who are currently lacking WR talent and if they get their #1 in the draft, he could be an excellent complement.  Or if they lose out on a 3rd rounder they coveted. 

At the same time I dont think the Giants should give him a multi-year deal with 50% or more guaranteed. 
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: Philosophers on April 18, 2024, 10:55:09 AM
Quote from: uconnjack8 on April 18, 2024, 10:35:06 AMSlayton is a solid stretch the defense guy.  He is not a #1 or X or however you want to state it.  As the Giants leading receiver in 4 of the last 5 years, he is being covered by guys that cover #1s and has still been productive on a team that hasnt had good pass protection or consistent QB play.  I think he is trade bait at some point, be it during the draft or afterwards. 

There are some teams with good QBs who are currently lacking WR talent and if they get their #1 in the draft, he could be an excellent complement.  Or if they lose out on a 3rd rounder they coveted. 

At the same time I dont think the Giants should give him a multi-year deal with 50% or more guaranteed.

Do you think good QB play and good OL play would elevate Slayton's play further or is he sort of maxed out and at his ceiling?  In another words, can he become a very good X?
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: nb587 on April 18, 2024, 11:10:00 AM
Quote from: Philosophers on April 18, 2024, 10:55:09 AMDo you think good QB play and good OL play would elevate Slayton's play further or is he sort of maxed out and at his ceiling?  In another words, can he become a very good X?
Short answer is no.  Long answer, he can be more productive than he's been.  But, if they draft a WR at 6, he won't get much of a chance especially if Hyatt learns to run his routes better as expected .  Slayton wont be worth the money he wants
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: londonblue on April 18, 2024, 11:17:15 AM
Slayton can be a steady WR2 on a team with a top WR1 and a slot threat. If he is realistic on his value he could be about to become that for us but he could also find himself WR4 behind Hyatt.

I can see that if we draft a WR at 6 he could get traded in draft to a receiver needy team like KC, NE, Denver or Buffalo with us getting eg a 4th in return for our 5th or an outright mid/late 5th.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: uconnjack8 on April 18, 2024, 11:28:45 AM
Quote from: Philosophers on April 18, 2024, 10:55:09 AMDo you think good QB play and good OL play would elevate Slayton's play further or is he sort of maxed out and at his ceiling?  In another words, can he become a very good X?

I don't see him as maxed out but I also don't see him as an "X".  He reminds me of someone like Devery Henderson.  If you put him opposite of a true X I think he becomes a better player and his yards/reception would increase. 
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: TDToomer on April 18, 2024, 11:38:49 AM
It is so predicable how this forum turns on any player who seeks a raise or extension.
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 12:06:41 PM
Quote from: londonblue on April 18, 2024, 11:17:15 AMSlayton can be a steady WR2 on a team with a top WR1 and a slot threat. If he is realistic on his value he could be about to become that for us but he could also find himself WR4 behind Hyatt.

I can see that if we draft a WR at 6 he could get traded in draft to a receiver needy team like KC, NE, Denver or Buffalo with us getting eg a 4th in return for our 5th or an outright mid/late 5th.

I would sign on to that trade
Title: Re: Slayton skips workout, seeks new deal
Post by: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 12:58:07 PM
https://x.com/rydunleavy/status/1781000831543746885