Big Blue Huddle

Quote from: TDToomer on December 28, 2023, 01:53:46 PMThe best argument for Cutlets is that he has been asked to do way more than most any team has asked for an undrafted rookie. Can he improve? Of course he can. Can he be a #2 QB for some team? I think he can but needs to beat out another #2 in training camp.

I only wish Mara had allowed McAdoo to let Davis Webb get this great opportunity that DeVito has been given back in 2017. But Francesa, the media and fans with pitchforks blew that plan up.

I have wondered how many highly touted QB's have been woefully unprepared to start in the NFL to the point where teams give up on them and they bounce around often never reaching their potential. 

Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 28, 2023, 12:39:16 PMGive me a cheap Qb ala Minshew, Mayfield, or Tyrod until we can get rid of Jones. That's unless we draft someone.

Minshew!
Gesundheit!

Quote from: BluesCruz on December 28, 2023, 01:11:20 PMGame victories and Passing TDs put DeVito ahead by a mile....just sayin.  also as a rookie his ceiling is undefined

Nope, DJ had 24 TD's his rookie season and a 5.2 TD % compared to DT's 4.5%.The Eagles were on their way to shellacking TD in an embarrassing loss. He surely would have lost the last two games. He can't stand in the pocket and deliver a pass because he's too short so he's forced to the sidelines. He can't hit Jalin Hyatt deep because he needs to set up perfectly to throw a deep pass. He missed several open receivers this past game because he holds the ball too long just like Jones. He's more agile in the Pocket but he's slow-footed compared to Jones who had 1900 yards rushing and 13 Touchdowns to add to his passing TD's.

TD hasn't proven anything other than he was a flash in the pan with a gimmick, while spending a lot of time cashing in on his 15 minutes of fame instead of preparing for the Eagles. Contrary to DJ who is the first one in and the last one out of the building and the farthest thing from an attention whore. While Daniel Jones has impeccable character.

I like my fellow Paisan but he needs to put in a lot more work and a lot more time before he can be considered a starter in this league, let alone a Backup. I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm saying he's proven to be a work in progress.

And this Ed, is why you get your balls broken by knowledgeable Members of this Group who care about the integrity of the site and the quality of the content. Love the enthusiasm, lose the baseless hype. 

Completion %        Success %        Yards/Avg        YAC      QB Rating     Yards/Game
63.6                           32.5                   6.2                 9.7          88.9              135.9

64.3                          42.8                   6.6                 10.2        85.2               208.5

Pretty close but the second QB is slightly better. So if Jones according to you isn't a solid starter, you lose all credibility by touting that DeVito has "already proven he can be a solid starter". Confirmation Bias.

Quote from: T200 on December 28, 2023, 10:40:32 AMGood points. I didn't consider the amount of games Fitz started. I was looking at it from the standpoint of both of them coming in and giving their teams a shot of adrenaline. Tommy's shots wore off faster than Fitz's   

Fitz, the Buster Mathis of QB's. Great for three rounds and then fizzles.

Quote from: T200 on December 28, 2023, 10:08:39 AMDaboll's shine has definitely lost some luster but I see no signs of him losing the locker room. This offseason and his coaching staff decisions will be key to his bounce-back or flop next year.

I could see at the end of the second quarter, effort waning. If he left Tommy in, it's very likely it would have continued and he may have lost the team. Benching Tommy was the absolute right move at the time. It showed his team that he will do anything it takes to win. I also believe that if DJ hadn't gotten hurt and didn't improve his game, that he would have been benched and Tyrod would have gotten the next start.

He rode the Tommy Train because it sparked the team that was downtrodden. He clearly saw Tommy lost focus and the tide turned. So did the team. Developing a backup QB does not take priority over winning... and the owners were watching, very closely.

Quote from: T200 on December 28, 2023, 09:58:23 AMEveryone is concerned about their job.

It was discussed a month or so ago about draft position versus trying to win games in a lost season. Only fans are concerned with draft position. Coaches and players care about winning. Why would a professional athlete who gets paid to play and win games willingly try and lose for the team to be in a better position to draft younger players who may eventually replace them? It's an asinine proposition at best. Additionally, many contracts contain incentive clauses that allow the players to earn more money based on performance triggers.

The bottom line is that players want to win. Period.

Additionally...Some will play not to get hurt. Business decisions.
It's called losing the team.
Starting Tyrod this week gets the team focused to win.

As I've said before, he has all the football skills and physical talent to be the next Mahomes. But he has bust written all over him.

The job of the Head Coach is to win games and put the team in the best position to win games. It was the case with DeVito at the time and it's the case now with Tyrod.

He's still a work in progress and I don't think he's ready at this point. He was showing that he was improving with each opportunity and then he became stagnant and Defenses shut him down. I still maintain that he allowed distractions to affect his focus. He needed to think, eat and sleep Football and nothing else, visualizing every scenario in his mind. Instead and regardless of who was handling the details he got caught up in a media frenzy and may have blown his opportunity.

The short answer is I don't know.

A few years ago when Wilson was on the market I gave my opinion that he was in decline with some push back. There were several who wanted the Giants to sign him.

Now it's very possible that he will be released after this season and look to sign elsewhere for league minimum, while sticking the Broncos for his guaranteed.

Is there anyone here that would like to see the Giants bring him here for 2024 and not draft a QB this upcoming draft?

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/release-not-trade-is-the-most-likely-outcome-for-broncos-and-russell-wilson

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