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Quote from: BluesCruz on December 17, 2023, 11:46:13 AMEd this is all I could find on the Saints message board.  they are discounting us entirely

"DeVito throws 2+ interceptions to Adebo and Mathieu"

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I actually took the Giants in my pools. I was thinking about going with the Jets because of Miami's Oline woes and Tyreek's health but I chickened out.

Hedging. 

You know if Tommy falls apart you're going to get roasted, right? 

I felt bad for Jake Fromm with that dysfunctional coaching staff and abysmal Oline. I think he would have had some success under Daboll.

Have you watched any of the spinoffs? I haven't but I was surfing and saw Daryl was in France and Maggie and Negan in NYC.

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 17, 2023, 08:20:36 AMI don't view Waller as a disappointment. He is only a disappointment if you had unrealistic expectations.

Basically, if you looked at his career and decided to use his 2019 and 2020 seasons as your baseline expectation for him, rather than his 2021 and 2022 seasons, then yes, you'd be disappointed. But clearly that wouldn't have been very logical.

We got what we paid for with Waller, simple as that. He has not disappointed if your expectations were realistic. He is what he is at this point.

Do you remember the thread poll on who would have the most yards and TD's? As I recall Waller was at the top. Some predicted he would have over 1000 yards. I think I voted for Slayton. But Waller after being out so many games is still a fairly close second in yards and in receptions. His problem as you know has been availability. I actually think he can have a lot of success with TD.

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Quote from: Ed Vette on December 16, 2023, 03:27:45 PMHere is why.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2023/12/16/kansas-city-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-andy-reid-fined-criticizing-refs/71943648007/

Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 16, 2023, 05:49:07 PMWe should draft Joe Matocha and have Tyrod mentor him and Devito and see which wins.

A man needs to have his priorities.

Quote from: Trench on December 16, 2023, 01:59:47 PMI was a fan of Devito immediately after seeing him in preseason. I had pointed out how impressive it was to see him learn from and immediately correct his mistakes in real time. The same has happened in his few regular season games. The game is slowing down a bit for him. This is the stuff that is most encouraging about Devito in my mind (in addition to what he told Barkley after the fumble)....add to the mix his "Broadway Joe" Jim McMahon red furry coat he wore to the game last week is nice moxy. I think he can easily be a McMahon or Plunkett. The question is, athletically speaking, can he also be a Breez or Purdy?

I don't remember saying Devito should be the backup early on because I like Tyrod a lot....but I was extremely worried about losing him to another team by not having him make our roster. I got hit hard on that one and was proven totally wrong as the posters here were 100% correct and he thankfully made our practice squad. On the other hand, some felt he shouldn't even be in the NFL. Bottom line is most of us here are 50/50 on evaluating players. I was all in on Sills and down on Thibs. Appears I was wrong on both (although I'm still hoping Sills gets a chance). The best part of Tommy Devito is what we learned about Jones as a result of Tommy's play and our Oline and WR who weren't as bad as some thought.

This is a wonderful story and it's nice to have something to play for in December. Let's hope Cincinnati can beat the Vikings today!

I think Tommy has a higher ceiling than some folks here give him credit for. He's never had a Brian Daboll and Tommy's growth day one to today is incredible. He absorbs like a sponge apparently and has good football instincts. I cross my fingers.

Quote from: BluesCruz on December 16, 2023, 01:22:56 PMEd Tommy has room for improvement

DJ on the other hand has proven to be Dave Brown II.  He has had 4 years to fix it
and has gotten worse not better.  Do you really want to see more?

He can be traded.  In a stronger offense he might actually get better.  Like David Carr he seems shell shocked.  It might not be too late for some other team to fix it

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He can only be traded if some team picks up a Giant portion of his Dead Cap hit. He's not going anywhere in 2024. If he doesn't play well next season, there will be no team that will want him.

Daniel Jones is better than he showed this season. With a decent oline he can win a lot of games. My issue with him is in high stakes games, he folds. I was the first person to shout that out years ago before all you others jumped on the bandwagon. Still I kept an open mind and balanced approach. No hype, no bashing.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on December 16, 2023, 09:55:15 AMAnd now Mahomes and Reid have backed off, essentially admitting it was a correct call and that Toney failed to point to the sidelines, which is how a receiver asks if his position is OK.  It's a learning moment for Reid and Mahomes.  Toney is a weak reed to assume he did the right thing.

Here is why.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2023/12/16/kansas-city-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-andy-reid-fined-criticizing-refs/71943648007/