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Wordle 903 4/6

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Quote from: Bob In PA on December 08, 2023, 03:55:35 PMEd: I think you need to refine the bold part. Do you mean past the LOS or behind it (or exactly AT the LOS)? Bob

Past the LOS, Bob.

Quote from: Uni on December 08, 2023, 02:08:07 PMOnce the ball leaves the foot of the punter and makes it past the line of scrimmage (the actual distance and whomever touched it behind the LOS is immaterial), it is in the possession of the receiving team UNLESS it is first touched by a member of the receiving team in which case the ball is live. In this case, it does not require full possession, the ball can simply glance off of a receiving player.

This also means if the kicking team touches it and the receiving team touches it thereafter, the ball still goes to the receiving team. So if the kicking team touches the ball first and the returner  tries to pick it up but ends up batting it before gaining possession, it's still the receiving team ball.

So in the case where it's punted and the receiving team deflects it at the Los and it travels past the LOS then the ball hits the leg of the receiving team, the kicking team picks it up and possesses it. Whose ball is it? The kicking team right? Just the same as if it wasn't tipped. That's how I've always understood it to be.

Last night the broadcast team called it for the receiving team because it was blocked before any possession.

Apparently, Daboll and Schoen have no issues with DJ because he's named their starter next season and it's TBD if they even draft a QB. When Eli comes out with a statement, I suspect that he was asked to support a decision that has already been made. It's ok to discuss this on a forum but I don't know what purpose it serves for a Beat to put it out unless it's to send a message to DJ that he needs to up his game.

Quote from: AZGiantFan on December 08, 2023, 12:47:18 PMI'm still trying to figure what sport you guys are talking about, since NFT means it's not about football.   

I didn't want it to go out on twitter and that's the only way to do that.

Dex may return this week. Also, I doubt there is any truth to the giving up on the season comment. I don't see it quoted anywhere.

Quote from: Bob In PA on December 08, 2023, 12:18:34 PMTim: Yes, that is because possession changes when the foot hits the ball whenever the punt goes beyond the line of scrimmage.

Another way to look at it... when a punt travels beyond the line of scrimmage on fourth down, the receiving team already "has possession" whether the ball is in the air, or if they catch it, or if they touch it.

So in that case, the basic rules of football regarding possession which everyone knows are applicable with NO exceptions.

Bob

A punt deflected by the receiving team that goes past the LOS according the Uni has to be possessed and then lose possession for the kicking team to recover the ball. So if the ball is tipped slightly and it travels 45 yards, then it hits the leg of the receiving team, the kicking team can't recover unless it was possessed and lost? I'm still not clear.

I still believe he can be a good RT. It's all mental.

Quote from: Uni on December 08, 2023, 10:09:16 AMI don't remember the play because (shocker) I nodded off multiple times throughout the game. For 10-15 minutes at times.

They jumped the gun only a little -- if the receiving team recovered the blocked punt and took possession then fumbled it before being down by contact, it's a live ball again and it would be first down if the kicking recovered it. But if there's a scrum and everyone is already on the ground there's no way this could happen.

So the only result would be downed by the receiving team or turnover on downs by the kicking team.

So it's different than a normal punt where if it touches the receiving team, the kicking team can recover. I thought last night that the ball wasn't recovered so I guess the receiving team must have downed it and they didn't show it. Or I got it mixed up.

The reason I asked was how they called the game last night on a blocked punt and seemed to have called it before a possession.

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Quote from: Uni on December 08, 2023, 08:37:35 AMIf the ball stays behind the LOS, it's a free ball. Once the ball makes it past the LOS, all the normal punt return rules apply.  If it touches the defense first, it will go to the offense. If the offense touches it first, it's a free ball.

can you restate using kicking and receiving terms.

Wordle 902 4/6

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It's 4th down and the Offense punts. It's blocked by the Defense and travels a few yards, bounces and hits players on both sides. How far does the ball have to travel for the kicking team to recover the ball? Or would the rule be it only has to hit the receiving team once and the ball can be recovered?

Quote from: DaveBrown74 on December 07, 2023, 09:34:21 PMEven if we swap in Tyreek for Tyree, I'm still not getting the thrust of the OP.

We have a bunch of scrubs, who, in total, have more yards than a single superstar player on another team.

What's the point exactly?

The Dolphins have scored 384 points
The Giants have scored 159 points
That's 229 more points
Now that's a Holy Crap!