Big Blue Huddle

Not too shabby.

I'll take it

So now our Think Tank is predicting Tommy DeVito will turn into a Jake Delhomme or Ryan Fitzpatrick who can get the Giants to the SB but can't win it because he's clearly demonstrated that after 5 games, he's never gonna be an Elite QB.

Although I'm sure they checked with Chat GPT.

Yup, you can't make this xxxx up folks!

 

The Paisano Push
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Lance Medow: If there's one statistic that explains why the Giants were productive on offense and finished drives against the Packers, it's zero sacks allowed with only two quarterback hits. What a difference it makes when you avoid negative plays. That's a huge reason the Giants orchestrated a pair of touchdown drives for 75 yards. Tommy DeVito and company didn't lose any yardage on the first eight-play drive that resulted in a score, and only had to overcome a false start penalty on the second as well as a one-yard loss on a Saquon Barkley run. That possession lasted 10 plays. They faced two third downs and reached the end zone on one of those plays. The Giants were three of four in the red zone, whereas the Packers were two of five. Here's the biggest difference: Jordan Love was sacked twice in that area compared to DeVito, who remained upright.

Except in the Mara Empire.

Quote from: StompYouOT on December 12, 2023, 01:37:36 PMI see it differently. Yeah the defense is our strength but this guy makes plays to score touchdowns and makes plays to close games. He is a much better passer and decision maker than Jones. Plus the team responds to him. Personally I find him very fun to cheer for and love watching The Giants again. Look at the crowd enjoying it.

I doubt he's the next Brady, that's wishful thinking most likely. But what about the next Jake Delhomme or Ryan Fitzpatrick?? That could b3 a good thing. Forget Williams and Maye at this point. Just build around him for next year and see where it goes

Actually Jordon Love played so badly under the same conditions in the first half that a top ten QB would have carved up the Giants Defense last night. Which would have been interesting to see if the training wheels would come off for Tommy and let him air it out playing from behind. Credit the Defense for keeping them in the game the second half. They sure as hell didn't win this one on their own. Good team effort.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 12, 2023, 10:39:15 AMEd I said he had a solid game, I'm not going to swoon over 158 yards. Yes he did what he needed to do and I thoroughly enjoyed watching the game. However that doesn't change the reality that we need an elite Qb. Yes we won 3 games but 2 of them were under 200 yards passing. We might as well be rolling the clocks back to last year and having the same conversation. Daboll and Kafka masking the Qb play and the Defense winning games for us all the while everyone gives the credit to Jones and now Devito.

Daboll is a good enough coach that we'll likely win 8 games regardless of who the Qb is but we need elite Qb play to win consistently and we don't have that on the roster currently. Yes we have a great story, but not an elite qb play.

This is what you said.

You are so lost in the moment that you are not realizing that we won last night because of the defense. We are on a 3 game winning streak because of the defense, and the only thing Devito did was not mess it up.

Total team effort and Tommy played a key role. He didn't just not lose the game.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 12, 2023, 10:39:15 AMEd I said he had a solid game, I'm not going to swoon over 158 yards. Yes he did what he needed to do and I thoroughly enjoyed watching the game. However that doesn't change the reality that we need an elite Qb. Yes we won 3 games but 2 of them were under 200 yards passing. We might as well be rolling the clocks back to last year and having the same conversation. Daboll and Kafka masking the Qb play and the Defense winning games for us all the while everyone gives the credit to Jones and now Devito.

Daboll is a good enough coach that we'll likely win 8 games regardless of who the Qb is but we need elite Qb play to win consistently and we don't have that on the roster currently. Yes we have a great story, but not an elite qb play.

So it was ok to bring DJ along slowly most of last season until teams took away the run but not for Tommy in his 5th start in this league? I would even take away that Jets game because he wasn't allowed to throw so make that four starts. He's slated for 27 touchdowns in a 17 game season and his last three games he's averaging a 117 passer rating and 66 completion percentage. They paid Jones 40 million for this...

Quote from: Jclayton92 on December 12, 2023, 09:54:21 AMYou are so lost in the moment that you are not realizing that we won last night because of the defense. We are on a 3 game winning streak because of the defense, and the only thing Devito did was not mess it up.

We need elite Qb play so that we can actually start winning football games because of the Qb not despite them.

Great story, lots of fun, but this is basically the football version Lin-Sanity.

Besides the solid QB play, TD has been the catalyst to a team of sad sacks depressed and floundering. His leadership has inspired the team and the coaches. Your confirmation bias is coming out with every one of these posts. You can't even give him credit for the improvement in his game since the day he got here. No sacks, no turnovers last night. Gains like 80 yards with his legs and makes key completions, while Kafka held him in check.

Quote from: T200 on December 12, 2023, 09:38:28 AMWhat I love the most about Hyatt, Hodgins, and Robinson is that they have soft, strong hands. The ball rarely escapes them and they don't rely on catching the ball with their arms/bodies like so many receivers do.

Hodgins has been a pretty good blocker too. Put 35 lbs on him and he'd make a heck of a TE.

Ha!

Quote from: uconnjack8 on December 12, 2023, 09:07:00 AMEd,

You mentioned the D.  They showed a graphic on the broadcast that the Giants have the youngest D in the NFL with average age of starters at 25.5.  We definitely have seen this group turn a corner.  It's not perfect, but with a young group and decent additions this could be a really solid defense.

And that's without Leo. Credit Wink for adjusting his game and mixing in man and Zone coverage to enable some of these takeaways. He found a niche for Simmons and has them working with each other. Much less mistakes and broken coverages. That stop on the two point conversion was as epic as that turnaround Spags had the third game of his first season.

WDR was getting slammed in the game thread before he broke out last night. It was nice to see him featured and come up big.

Somewhere in all this I have to think JMS had a hand in opening up the middle for Tommy to escape and gain yards on the ground. I was concentrating mostly on Tommy in those situations. Anyone?