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#196
This was a pretty good interview by John Schmeelk of Kurt Warner. A few comments and thoughts.

I respect Warner not just for his knowledge but for the kind of man he is. I remember the day in Albany at Camp where I saw him signing autographs for so many children until there were no more to sign.

I always felt he was pulled too soon that season but we all knew it was Eli's time. I felt the team would have definitely faired better that year if Warner had finished the season. Eli got his ass kicked the remainder of 2004. Fortunately it didn't break him but made him stronger.

Warner was criticized for holding the ball too long. I remember all the articles timing his release. It was a new and different system and perhaps he was in a different approach to the reads. In the interview he credited himself with being one of the best at reading Defenses and routes, and perhaps that season helped him toward his future successes. I always wondered what would have been if Eli wasn't drafted and Kurt Warner was the Giants QB in the Coughlin years.

I think that Kurt is looking at this draft class through the eyes of what he did best and I know I'll get some groans here, but he was way too harsh on Drake Maye. He failed to see all the good things he did on the field that quite frankly, Bobby Skinner pointed out. Bobby was very objective and it wasn't all roses, but he hit in his reads, the ability to move within the pocket, make incredible throws in tight windows with anticipation, throws outside the numbers in a system that didn't try to attack the middle of the field, escape pressure to make throws downfield and not check-downs while taking hits, and gaining yards with his legs when there was nothing there. Yes, Maye bounces a lot and I don't see that being eliminated completely but guess what HOF QB bounced a lot before delivery? Peyton Manning. And although Manning has a sweet Mickey Mantle swing with a beautiful delivery but he didn't have the arm that Maye has. It's not going to hurt him at the next level. He does it to keep himself in his toes to move within the pocket and avoid pressure and that's going to help him at the next level.

That said, Maye has to cut down on those wtf passes, but with the exception of one game, it's way overblown. That can be corrected.
#197
The Front Porch / Re: Strands anyone?
April 11, 2024, 07:07:04 AM
Strands #39
"It's all in your head"
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#198
The Front Porch / Re: NYT "Connections" Game
April 11, 2024, 06:48:37 AM
Connections
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#199
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Drake Maye
April 10, 2024, 10:11:28 PM
Talking' Giants, Bobby Skinner breaks down Drake Maye.
#200
They can't be asking for the same compensation from all teams. It's negotiable. If they believe they can get their guy at six, the Giants can offer something significantly less. It depends what on how the draft plays out.
#201
Big Blue Huddle / Re: Is there a QB shortage?
April 10, 2024, 12:39:11 PM
Reality set in on the Journeymen who never will be.
#202
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 10, 2024, 08:39:47 AMEd,

The top QBs are getting over $50 million per
"Approaching" Five years ago 30-40 million was the QB range. In five years, we can see an OT or Edge at 40-50 million.
#203
If his hypothesis comes to fruition, it's going to be a very costly move and a gutsy one at that. I would guess that it would cost them their second and third this year and next year's first round picks. In that case it could wind up being a GM/Coach killer, if it fails or takes too long for him to develop. I can still recall the angry fans after the Eli trade.

I think they sit at six and take who falls to them, or trade back. Looks to me like the top four will be gone by then.
#204
Approaching QB numbers. Of course it's the guaranteed money that really counts.
#205
The Front Porch / Re: Strands anyone?
April 10, 2024, 07:39:17 AM
Strands #38
"In closing"
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#206
The Front Porch / Re: NYT "Connections" Game
April 10, 2024, 07:11:16 AM
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#207
Let's see if he trades down this year.
#208
Quote from: MightyGiants on April 09, 2024, 10:50:36 AMI see this is from Albert Breer.  I just listened to Breer on a podcast yesterday.  Breer said he believes the Giants are not going to draft a quarterback because they are in win-now mode (while continuing to build).  Breer says the Giants are looking to win in 2024, not 2025 (while giving a pass to 2024).  Breer said he knows the Giants know they have weaknesses but that they are convinced they can win while building.
I got that impression from the article and how it was constructed and the narrative pushed. Joe Schoen certainly framed his comments to give that perception. I know Ric feels that's the way they are going and I would not be surprised if they do.
#209
Interesting.
#210
Big Blue Huddle / The QB School 2024 QB Rankings
April 09, 2024, 10:46:50 AM
JT O'Sullivan's evaluation and slotting of each of the QB's top nine prospects. I believe it's a fair assessment without bias.