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We all got our just deserts on this one.

Second great loss for The Band.

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Quote from: DaveBrown74 on August 09, 2023, 08:17:22 AMSeems like a number of us had unfortunate misses with our birdie putts this morning..

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We have 10 so far. This is an opportunity to finally beat Dale the Dasher!
https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/survival/1971/

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Quote from: bighitterdalama on August 06, 2023, 11:34:14 AMEd, this is excellent stuff. Great for those of us who can't make camp (Lord I miss those days) and must rely on the camp reports of others. A (maybe not so) quick question: I've felt since the end of last season that a huge need for the Giants was to solidify the defensive line rotation, a unit that, excluding Dex and Leo, was just plain bad. How have Nacho and Riley looked? A'Shawn Robinson, who is still on the PUP, looked to be moving well in sideline agility drill I saw on tape. Did you hear any word on his return? Haven't heard a word on DJ Davidson (also on PUP); any talk about him? Any other players showing anything of note?

Again, thanks loads, Ed.

I know nothing about the PUP players. I like Nacho and when they are all back they should be a solid group. The big difference should be the off ball LBs who have Gap responsibilities in Run Support. That's an improvement with Bobby O. and McFadden, CC and CB with another year under their belts and Beavers back. It's tough to judge the Dline with no tackling and most of the pressure coming from the Blitzes.
If not for the Blitzes, there was time in the pocket for those deep passes.

Quote from: Trench on August 06, 2023, 09:48:13 AMEd as far as your assessment on the WR making their cuts on routes, a question I have is WanDale also doing those drills?....I'm curious where he falls against the others from a naked eye

He's on PUP so he can't participate. He's off to the side working out on his own. I think they want to keep him on PUP because when he comes back, surely there will be injuries and he can replace the unnecessary. @Pat_Traina made a good comment about players who don't contribute on Special Teams and their value in making the team, especially in looking at their Cap Hit. A lot of those WRs don't play on STs. But to answer your question, WDR is very agile and runs clean routes. 

Next year Ben Bredeson is an UFA. His versatility alone warrants locking him in, but he may be the future RG on this team. Credit to @Pat_Traina for pointing that out on her LOG Podcast.

Pat Traina Locked On Giants Podcast https://t.co/ZkwPV5lSwI

https://twitter.com/art_stapleton/status/1687412267212521473?

@Ed Vette

As the Giants go into the last day of practice before they head out to Detroit for Joint Sessions and the first pre-season game, I'd like to summarize my take and observations at this point.

Today, I'd like to see them solidify some of these camp battles where possible. Obviously, Schmitz is the starting Center. It's not quite clear yet who the starting Left Guard will be and how that impacts the Right Guard position. Most observations see Bredeson as the second-best Lineman on the team after Andrew Thomas. If Ezeudu can secure that LG spot, then I'd like to see him come out with the first team today and I'd like to see Bredeson at RG. I like the fact that Ezeudu can pull better than any LG the Giants have had since Richie Suebert. I like the pass protection Bredeson gives them and with this team looking to be a much more explosive Passing Offense, that becomes critical. The reason we are seeing all these deep completions and many for TDs is that the QBs have time to throw the deep ball.  Slayton, Waller, Hyatt, and Campbell have been killing the Defense.

That brings me to being happy on the one hand and dismayed on the other. Unless the Defensive Line and Edge pressure players are holding back on the 11-11s, it's concerning that the only real pressure is coming from all these Blitz Packages that Wink Martindale is throwing out there. It also seems by default that Ximinez is the third Pass Rusher and although he flashes in camp, it's a problem since Azeez Ojulari misses games every season and Ximinez shows ugatz in live action.

 It could be why Wink is deploying the Blitz out there so much but, I believe he's also doing it because the Giants' Offensive Line struggled in picking it up last season, either by the QB not moving the TE or RB to pick it up or because of a breakdown. They also struggled in double-teaming and picking up Stunts. So, as much as I'd like to see the one-on-one matchups finish up, it should make them more battle ready for the regular season.
It looks like we will see both McFadden and Beavers rotate with Okereke inside but I think Mikah has the edge. He's come on strong after a poor rookie season.

The woes at Nickle Corner looks to be the winner by default but how do they keep Tre Hawkins off the field if he continues to show game? It doesn't make sense to move Adoree inside and have two rookies on the Corners. This position won't be settled until after the pre-season games. The front runners are Flott and Holmes. Bobby Skinner and Justin Penik mentioned moving up the bigger McCloud and that's an interesting option. I like the Jack of all Trades and he would be solid in Run Defense.

I think the passing game will open up the Run Game and although Barkley won't get as many touches, he could have some breakaways. This is the season for Jones to have the option of reading the Box and Calling Run or Pass.

Cager had a better day yesterday and the fact that Waller is primarily a Receiver and can't block for $#it, I think this becomes a delicate balance of WR and TE. Sweeney has shown ability and so has Myarick but lets call a spade a spade... at 6'5" and 261 the man is not a FB, he's a TE. If Waller gets injured, I'd see him replaced by Hodgins in the Red Zone. After Bellinger, it comes down to the best blockers and I don't think that's Cager.

Safety looks good with McKinney, Pinnock, McCloud and Belton. I'd like to see McKinney in the Box on Cover One.

The Kickoff and Punt Returns look to be Eric Grey. Gillan looks solid hitting the Corner and booming it 60 yards off his foot and Gano is money. The rest of Special teams hasn't been sorted out yet. I don't see the next David Tyree at this point. Besides, Kickoffs can now be "Fair Caught" and the ball gets placed on the 25 according to the new rule.

I have to say that I'm impressed with Daniel Jones and how much better his decision to release has been. He's been deadly accurate, short to long. There is a large void between him and Tyrod Taylor so I'd like to see much less Read Option Plays that expose Jones to injury and limit him to a wide-open A Gap when there's nobody open downfield. As Taylor's contract expires, they need a backup similar to Jones. I don't see Tommy DeVito as that guy.

At Receiver, it looks like Slayton, Hyatt, Campbell, Beasley, Hodgins and Shepard. They kept 7 on the final 53 last year and that one will get replaced by Wan'Dale Robinson when he comes back from PUP. That guy would be among Colin Johnson and David Sills from where I sit. Bryce Ford Wheaton is destined for the Practice Squad unless he suddenly breaks out.

Some concerns? How long does Evan Neal stay in concussion protocol? How did that even happen? Matt Peart had a strong day yesterday before and after Neal went out and that backup RT Position must be decided ASAP.  What's up with Leo Williams who was rested two days in a row and is this a chronic injury that gave Schoen pause in giving him an extension to free up Cap Space? Is his replacement in the 2024 Draft? How will Parris Campbell be affected by this Tendonitis as the season wears on?