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#1
He's a project with a ton of talent. Hope our coaches can tap into that athleticism. Rare for 5th round picks to become much, so you go for athleticism and try to get the most out of them through coaching. Happened last year when we drafted a name no one ever heard of in Trey Hawkins III

I trust that Schoen, Daboll, and scouts know more than me and know what they are doing. I know that they have wanted to improve STs
#2
Big Blue Huddle / Have you noticed?
Today at 03:54:06 PM
Last year, the Schoen introduced the modern war room - nothing on the walls except logo and team name, everyone with a laptop or monitor. I haven't seen any room as decked out as the Giants, but none of them have anything on the wall...unlike last year. Makes me wonder if deciphering the Cowboys' draft wall a couple years ago and seeing he had Thibs and Neal as no's 1 and 2 overall, made everyone rethink their war room
#3
Quote from: brownelvis54 on Today at 03:40:42 PMBecause we have Devin Singletary, Dante Miller, Eric Gray, and Gary Brightwell. a DT like Mekhi Wingo is more needed. Like I said months ago, why not take a chance on Michael Pratt in the latter rounds. He could sit for one year, low risk, perhaps high reward.


Like Ivan Pace Jr. last year, Wingo might not even get drafted because he's considered too small for the defensive line. But like Pace last year (didn't get drafted because of his size, then became 1st team all rookie as LB)
#4
Converted WR. Low miles on legs as RB. Very shifty and will be a great ST player. I like his RAS score. He's an offensive weapon. Not a "Workhorse Back", but more like a poor man's McCaffrey. He's more dangerous taking slant passes or sweeps. Should be a good compliment to the RBs we already have. At least we know he can catch a ball and make something happen
#5
Giants coming up on the clock soon..for me...I'd like DT Mekhi Wingo, OG Beaux Limmer, or OG Christian Mahogany
#6
Quote from: GloryDays on Today at 02:52:09 PMIt comes down to team building philosophy and the ability to assess O line talent.

May be ignoring the line is the wrong word; they certainly have devoted a lot of valuable assets to it, but so far the efforts have had dismal results. Last year they ignored that they made a mistake and Neal is no good.. they ROLLED THE DICE, and they got snake eyes. My question is, are they rolling the dice again?
I brought up Pittsburgh as an example. PFF ranked their O line as the # 12 in the league.
Here is their picks through 4 rounds:

Round 1: No. 20-Troy Fautanu, G, Washington
Round 2: No. 51- Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia
Round 3: No. 84-Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
Round 3: No. 98 (Compensatory - from PHI)-Payton Wilson, LB, North Carolina State
Round 4: No. 119-Mason McCormick, G, South Dakota State

Are they stupid?!

Probably not. They plan on having another Iron Curtain for the next decade. Picking up Payton Wilson will be an exciting player to watch. They are going to fall in love with him
#7
Eagles just got Ainias Smith, and they are going to love him. WR like Wan'Dale, STs ace, but also a RB and a dynamic pk/r that reminds me of Dave Meggett - without the legal issues

 :Faint:  :angryfire:
#8
Half the best OL players in the NFL were drafted (or undrafted altogether) on the third day

Some very good ones left...my favorite, Walter Rouse (OT/OG Penn St.). 6'5"/324...Smart, was going to become a surgeon before focusing on football. Best fit inside, but played a lot of tackle and could be swing tackle

Beaux Limmer (6'5"/310) is still on the board. He's played all the spots on the inside, but has been Arkansas' center the last year, taking over the spot when Ricky Stromberg was drafted last year
#9
Dare I say it...or even think it...in "size and play style, he reminds me of watching Jason Witten" (also a day 3 pick). Could we be so lucky?
#10
Theo, Theo, Theo  =D>  =D>  =D>  =D>
#11
For me: I like RB Jaylen Wright, TE Theo Johnson, DTs Mekhi Wingo and Brandon Dorlus in 4th round
#12
Carson Steele is an interesting player. He plays RB, but is built like a FB. Made the Freaks list for unreal strength...the downside, has "Hollywood Looks"

6'1" / 230

https://uclabruins.com/sports/football/roster/carson-steele/12740

From The Athletic


"He made the Freaks List last year before having a monster season for Ball State, rushing for 1,556 yards. Not bad for a guy who only had one FBS scholarship offer. The Bruins were elated to get him in the transfer portal. Steele, at 6-1, 233, has wowed his new teammates with his strength. He bench-pressed 450 pounds and squatted 685. His wheels have been impressive too, clocking 20.96 MPH and vertical-jumping 35 inches.

Steele, with his long flowing locks, looks like a fit in Hollywood. He also owns a pet alligator named Crocky-J.

"He's a dawg," says Bruins center Duke Clemens. "He's huge. He's like a bowling ball. I always see him in the weight room doing extra work after we're done with our workouts. You know why he is the way he is. I'm excited for him this year. He definitely can plow some people. You're gonna see that this year."
#13
Quote from: TONKA56 on Today at 10:57:55 AMIs Singletary that guy? 🤔

Do we have a goal line running back? 

I don't think in today's NFL there is such a thing as a goal line RB. The days of Csonka and "The Bus" are long gone. Defenses are bigger, faster, and stronger so few RBs can push a line out of the way with brute force...especially when the defense knows it's coming

I think a guy like Jaylen Wright might do as well as any in the draft. He's fast, shifty, strong, and plays with a nasty demeanor and unrivaled intensity. If he sees a crease, he's already trying to thread it
#14
Quote from: Philosophers on Today at 10:19:18 AMIf you value explosiveness and don't mind overstocking a position, why not take Troy Franklin out of Oregon as another WR.  Explosive piece.  If he's the best out there and if the Eagles were loaded up at WR, they'd still take him.  Can't have enough BPA pieces either.

I've wondered the same thing. This draft was bloated with WRs, three of the best in years, and about 30 who would be in the top 100 in any other year. It's almost ridiculous the number of good WRs there are in this draft. Franklin is good, but the two WRs that I really like are Devontez Walker (NC) and Ainias Smith (Tex A&M). Smith is a little guy, but plays three positions WR/RB/PR-KR (ST ace and Swiss Army knife and plays like his hair is on fire and even blocks like he thinks he's a lineman...big football heart)

There will be good WRs that go undrafted this year...it's that loaded
#15
From what I can devine from the draft so far

1) Offensive linemen of note, are depleted
2) Some top notch WRs still left
3) Only a few RBs of note are left
4) Defensive lineman of note, are depleted
5) Quite a few DBs are still available
6) No love for LBs this year
7) IMO - Schoen is looking for very specific pieces to build the Giants, not necessarily BPA