Big Blue Huddle

Giants coming up on the clock soon..for me...I'd like DT Mekhi Wingo, OG Beaux Limmer, or OG Christian Mahogany

Quote from: GloryDays on April 27, 2024, 02:52:09 PMIt comes down to team building philosophy and the ability to assess O line talent.

May be ignoring the line is the wrong word; they certainly have devoted a lot of valuable assets to it, but so far the efforts have had dismal results. Last year they ignored that they made a mistake and Neal is no good.. they ROLLED THE DICE, and they got snake eyes. My question is, are they rolling the dice again?
I brought up Pittsburgh as an example. PFF ranked their O line as the # 12 in the league.
Here is their picks through 4 rounds:

Round 1: No. 20-Troy Fautanu, G, Washington
Round 2: No. 51- Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia
Round 3: No. 84-Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
Round 3: No. 98 (Compensatory - from PHI)-Payton Wilson, LB, North Carolina State
Round 4: No. 119-Mason McCormick, G, South Dakota State

Are they stupid?!

Probably not. They plan on having another Iron Curtain for the next decade. Picking up Payton Wilson will be an exciting player to watch. They are going to fall in love with him

Eagles just got Ainias Smith, and they are going to love him. WR like Wan'Dale, STs ace, but also a RB and a dynamic pk/r that reminds me of Dave Meggett - without the legal issues

  

Half the best OL players in the NFL were drafted (or undrafted altogether) on the third day

Some very good ones left...my favorite, Walter Rouse (OT/OG Penn St.). 6'5"/324...Smart, was going to become a surgeon before focusing on football. Best fit inside, but played a lot of tackle and could be swing tackle

Beaux Limmer (6'5"/310) is still on the board. He's played all the spots on the inside, but has been Arkansas' center the last year, taking over the spot when Ricky Stromberg was drafted last year

Dare I say it...or even think it...in "size and play style, he reminds me of watching Jason Witten" (also a day 3 pick). Could we be so lucky?

Theo, Theo, Theo       

For me: I like RB Jaylen Wright, TE Theo Johnson, DTs Mekhi Wingo and Brandon Dorlus in 4th round

Carson Steele is an interesting player. He plays RB, but is built like a FB. Made the Freaks list for unreal strength...the downside, has "Hollywood Looks"

6'1" / 230

https://uclabruins.com/sports/football/roster/carson-steele/12740

From The Athletic


"He made the Freaks List last year before having a monster season for Ball State, rushing for 1,556 yards. Not bad for a guy who only had one FBS scholarship offer. The Bruins were elated to get him in the transfer portal. Steele, at 6-1, 233, has wowed his new teammates with his strength. He bench-pressed 450 pounds and squatted 685. His wheels have been impressive too, clocking 20.96 MPH and vertical-jumping 35 inches.

Steele, with his long flowing locks, looks like a fit in Hollywood. He also owns a pet alligator named Crocky-J.

"He's a dawg," says Bruins center Duke Clemens. "He's huge. He's like a bowling ball. I always see him in the weight room doing extra work after we're done with our workouts. You know why he is the way he is. I'm excited for him this year. He definitely can plow some people. You're gonna see that this year."

Quote from: TONKA56 on April 27, 2024, 10:57:55 AMIs Singletary that guy? 🤔

Do we have a goal line running back? 

I don't think in today's NFL there is such a thing as a goal line RB. The days of Csonka and "The Bus" are long gone. Defenses are bigger, faster, and stronger so few RBs can push a line out of the way with brute force...especially when the defense knows it's coming

I think a guy like Jaylen Wright might do as well as any in the draft. He's fast, shifty, strong, and plays with a nasty demeanor and unrivaled intensity. If he sees a crease, he's already trying to thread it

Quote from: Philosophers on April 27, 2024, 10:19:18 AMIf you value explosiveness and don't mind overstocking a position, why not take Troy Franklin out of Oregon as another WR.  Explosive piece.  If he's the best out there and if the Eagles were loaded up at WR, they'd still take him.  Can't have enough BPA pieces either.

I've wondered the same thing. This draft was bloated with WRs, three of the best in years, and about 30 who would be in the top 100 in any other year. It's almost ridiculous the number of good WRs there are in this draft. Franklin is good, but the two WRs that I really like are Devontez Walker (NC) and Ainias Smith (Tex A&M). Smith is a little guy, but plays three positions WR/RB/PR-KR (ST ace and Swiss Army knife and plays like his hair is on fire and even blocks like he thinks he's a lineman...big football heart)

There will be good WRs that go undrafted this year...it's that loaded

From what I can devine from the draft so far

1) Offensive linemen of note, are depleted
2) Some top notch WRs still left
3) Only a few RBs of note are left
4) Defensive lineman of note, are depleted
5) Quite a few DBs are still available
6) No love for LBs this year
7) IMO - Schoen is looking for very specific pieces to build the Giants, not necessarily BPA

From The Atlantic

39. Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State (6-1, 215)
55. T.J. Tampa, CB, Iowa State (6-0, 194)
57. Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas (6-3, 245)
58. Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon (6-1, 176)
72. Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina (6-0, 211)
78. Austin Booker, Edge, Kansas (6-4, 253)
80. Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State (6-6, 259)
83. Jaylen Wright, RB, Tennessee (5-10, 210)
84. Malik Mustapha, S, Wake Forest (5-10, 206)
85. DJ James, CB, Auburn (5-11, 175)
89. Jared Wiley, TE, TCU (6-6, 249)
90. Malik Washington, WR, Virginia (5-8, 191)
92. Brandon Dorlus, DT, Oregon (6-3, 283)
93. Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina (6-1, 193)
95. Mekhi Wingo, DT, LSU (6-0, 284)
96. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S, Texas Tech (5-10, 197)
97. Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin (6-1, 235)
98. Audric Estime, RB, Notre Dame (5-11, 222)
99. Christian Mahogany, G, Boston College (6-3, 314)
101. Cade Stover, TE, Ohio State (6-3, 247)

The NY Post's 10 Best Players Left

1) WR Troy Franklin, Oregon, 6-2, 176 (35)
2) CB T.J. Tampa, Iowa State, 6-1, 189 (54)
3) RB Jaylen Wright, Tennessee, 5-10, 210 (57)
4) S Jaden Hicks, Washington State, 6-2, 211 (58)
5) CB D.J. James, Auburn, 6-0, 175 (67)
6) TE Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas, 6-4, 245 (69)
7) WR Devontez Walker, North Carolina, 6-1, 193 (75)
8) LB Jeremiah Trotter, Jr., Clemson, 6-0, 228 (80)
9) CB Kris Abrams-Draine, Missouri, 5-11, 179 (81)
10) TE Jared Wiley, TCU, 6-6, 249 (82)

Personally, I'd be pretty happy with DT Mekki Wingo. He's undersized for DT3, but he's a ball of muscle who plays like the cartoon character, the Tasmanian Devil

Surprised CB TJ Tampa is still on the board...go figure 

Quote from: Philosophers on April 27, 2024, 12:14:56 AMYeah that's a good point about DTs being picked clean.  Hope it's a very athletic TE so not Cade Stover.

Cade Stover had the highest pass block rating of any TE in college...basically an extra offensive lineman. But we picked up two "block only" type TEs in FA, so probably won't happen. I think they like Theo, but your guess is as good as mine. Personally, if there is a RB they really like, they probably ought to get him because he won't be there in round 5...most likely