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Once the Ravens started blitzing Mahones he lost a lot of his magic. You need to blitz and pressure him to. Sure he runs around but he also makes bad throws. In the 1st half the Ravens hardly blitzed and Mahones picked them apart. In the 2nd the Ravens blitzed more and made Mahones uncomfortable.

I didn't agree with the 4th down call but I could live with it. As a coach you have to look at the consequences of you don't make it. In this case the miners are deep in their territory.
The 3rd down run was just a horrible call because the consequences of not making it is burning a time out and basically losing the championship game. Those consequences far out way the others. Sorry but Campbell has to take that into account. Just a horrible call in those circumstances

Being aggressive all year is one thing, being silly in the championship game is stupid. He needed to kick that thing FG and take some of the momentum away from the miners. Plus it wasn't 4th and inches it was 4th and 3 or so. If he kicks that FG he ties the game later on.
And don't get me started on that run call with 1:20 left. That was just plain stupid. I said so at the time and will continue to say it until next year.
That call was about as dumb as Pete Carrolls call on the SB on that ridiculous pass at the goal line.

Asich as I was rooting for Detroit an Campbell he has to kick a FG in that spot. This is the championship game to go to the Superbowl you just have to kick the FG then. If nothing else than to give your offense a boost. And how can you call a running play at the goal line?
This loss is on the coaching staff

Say what you want about him and there is much to say, if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl again he will have 2 rings. That's something for a guy who contributed nothing

 I know I am very late to the table with this one, but I have been watching The Mandalorian on Disney. I am about mid-way thru season 2 and like it very much. Sure it isn't high on drama, but if anyone was ever a fan of the simpler Star Wars saga, you will simply love this show. I also like that each episode is about 40 minutes so I can stuff a group into a smaller viewing window.

 Some weekend funnies

As I have said before, say we go with Jones and he is having a terrific year, but in reality, with already 2 serious neck injuries, he is basically one good hot away from retiring and getting a medical compensation package. How can we put all our eggs in his basket and NOT prepare for life without him? Come on DeVito isn't the answer. We need a new plan with a healthy QB.

Connor Hughes of SNY reports that the Denver Broncos called the Giants on draft night in 2018 and had a major offer prepared for the No. 2 spot.

After learning that Baker Mayfield would go No. 1 overall, John Elway was desperate to trade up for quarterback Sam Darnold. He was ready to offer the Giants a King's random.

Then-general manager Dave Gettleman ignored the call.

We drafted Barkley instead whom Gettleman already had wearing a gold Jacket before he took one snap.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/giants-dave-gettleman-ignored-broncos-call-during-2018-nfl-draft/ar-BB1hlciZ?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=3ae8e2c7382445d89d259ea715caab26&ei=19

Squib

I only use this as an example, but in these times (today) if you even look at someone the wrong way, maybe take a quick glance at a pretty woman, you never know who is watching, and you could end up being sued or fired for some harmless look.
My point is, that people are just too overly sensitive these days. A passing joke, or an aside made to a friend can be interpreted in an entirely different way. On paper, as you are saying, it seems harmless enough, and getting fired for it seems overly harsh, but you also don't know the entire story, just one side.

Things like this happen all the time lately. It is sad, but it is also a sign of the times.

Just a side note--my wife worked in what would be called a minority school. One day, in an open hallway she was talking to another teacher about a show she saw the night before about a courageous Black family. Someone overheard her use just the term Black woman and thought they heard something different. My wife was almost fired because of this. Sometimes people don't hear things right, or out of context and think something else. My wife was cleared when the entire story did come out, but she had to go before the entire school board with a union lawyer to be absolved of this, especially when she did absolutely nothing wrong.

Quote from: Giant Jim on January 26, 2024, 12:37:35 PMIf they bring Belichick in, they should get rid of Schoen and DaBoll. They'd be in a situation where they'd be looking over their shoulders after every debatable decision or loss. Belichick would be viewed as a coach-in-waiting, everyone knows he wants to coach again and would probably want full control when he slides over to be head coach. They did this the last time the team was in total chaos when they hired the most successful head coach from the WFL, John McVay, to a made up job title, only to succeed Bill Arnsbarger in the middle of his first season here. Either Schoen and DaBoll go or continue to run the team as they see fit and try to stabilize this team that has been so poorly run for so many years. Owners need to support their management or find new they believe in, not undermine it.

 I fully agree Jim, Just the idea of bringing in a BB, back to NY would probably make him giffy.  He just LOVES to bring in all those old Giants and who cares how it works out.

Quote from: jgrangers2 on January 26, 2024, 02:06:11 PMI can't stress this enough, but you don't force positions in the draft, especially at QB. That's literally how we ended up with Jones to begin with. The Giants likely won't be able to get any of the top 3 QBs and if they don't like the second tier guys (McCarthy, Penix, Nix) then don't force it.

Sorry but the days of BPA should have ended a long time ago. When you have needs, you simply need to address them.

And how, at 6, did we force Jones onto this team? Jones was Gettleman's choice long before we moved up the mike to announce our pick. Most had Jones going mid to late rd 1, or even early round 2. I think that was Jones's biggest prpblem, his #5 draft #.

As has been said, all the potential first-round picks all have some warts. And, that is at the college level. When I hear ball security issues, to me, that is a huge red flag. Once a guy is known for that, he is relentlessly hounded at giving up the ball. When I read need to work on accuracy, I also cringe. I always thought accuracy was a natural trait and could not be taught. You can improve the mechanics, but when a guy isn't accurate in college, he sure will be the same way in the NFL where the rush is always there and you just need to get rid of the ball quickly. I also cringe a bit at thinking maybe one of these guys, who they say has to get rid of the ball quicker, were on the Giants, he would end up getting killed here.
And then with all the hoopla, a guy like Purdy comes along and who gives a darn what was said about him on paper?

Quote from: Painter on January 26, 2024, 04:01:04 PMThe following is a look head assessment not an analysis or comparison of Daniel Jones in retrospect. In this particular Walter Football instance, can we find instruction despite our now firmly entrenched biases concerning the Giants pre-2019 Draft and more importantly the accuracy of all such predicates of the kind of which we can expect to be deluged in the next three months?


Daniel Jones Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell

Ha, a lot they know.            

Strengths:
Above-average accuracy
Can throw a fastball into tight windows
Good height
Able to loft in touch passes
Throws a very catchable ball
Stands tall in the pocket despite the rush
Good field vision at times
Moves his eyes
Works through his progression
Can throw receivers open
Can push the ball downfield
Throws a good deep ball
Has more mobility than many realize
Can buy time or pick up yards on the ground
Good size for a NFL starting quarterback
Intelligent
Shows the ability to read defenses
Knows where his receivers are on each play
Upside

Weaknesses:
Will throw into coverage that he shouldn't
Needs to improve timing
Holds the ball too long
Could shorten his delivery
Broken collarbone in 2018


Summary: Duke's head coach, David Cutcliffe, is one of the most valued and respected quarterback gurus in football. He was the coaching mentor to both Peyton and Eli Manning, and at Duke, Cutcliffe provided Jones very good preparation for the NFL over his three years as the Blue Devils' starting quarterback.

As a freshman, Jones connected on 63 percent of his passes for 2,836 yards with 16 touchdowns and nine interceptions. In 2017, he completed 56 percent of his passes for 2,439 yards with 12 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. Jones had his best season in 2018, despite dealing with some injuries. He completed 61 percent of his passes on the year for 2,674 yards with 22 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Many around the league thought Jones would return for his redshirt senior year, but he decided to jump to the next level and declared for the 2019 NFL Draft.

There is a lot to like about Jones, and he has the potential to be a franchise quarterback with his ability to be a pro-style pocket passer. Jones has a strong arm and can really spin the ball. That was clearly seen by area scouts and the rest of the league at the Senior Bowl. Jones has the ability to make all the throws needed for the NFL. He can loft in touch passes downfield and throw some fastballs into tight windows. Jones is very good at putting air underneath his touch passes to drop them in the bucket and throws a very catchable ball.

Jones has been well prepared for the NFL, as he is an intelligent signal-caller. In speaking to one NFC general manager, they really liked how Jones knew where all of his receivers would be and was able to move to them when he had to throw under duress. Jones has quality field vision and works beyond his primary read. He does a decent job of dissecting the coverage the defense is employing, and is able to manipulate coverage with his eyes.

In the face of a rush, Jones stands tall and keeps his eyes downfield while the rush closes in on him. While Jones is not a dynamic runner for the NFL, he does move around pretty well and can pick up some yards on the ground while also being able to buy time through scrambling. Additionally, Jones can make some nice throws on the run. Given the speed of pro defenders, Jones is not a true rushing threat, but he can be functional enough to dodge some sacks and pick up some yards on the ground when nothing is open downfield.

As a passer, Jones does have things to work on for the NFL. He can hold the ball too long and not pull the trigger fast enough. With the speed of pro defenses, Jones has to be more decisive and get the ball out faster when he has an open receiver. Jones' timing should improve with more experience and coaching. There were also too many times when Jones would force some throws into coverage. He can trust his arm too much and sometimes throws passes that he shouldn't. It also wouldn't hurt Jones to shorten his delivery, which will help him to be effective for the faster pro game with its smaller windows of time to complete passes. It would also help him by reducing the time for pass-rushers to get to him.

For the 2019 NFL Draft, Jones looks like a consensus first-round pick from speaking with team sources. He could become a franchise quarterback and be a good pro starter. Three general managers told me they thought that Jones would rise in the leadup to the draft and be the first quarterback taken. Regardless of if he is the initial signal-caller to go off the board, Jones should be a top-20 pick.


Player Comparison: Eli Manning. Jones has the look of a Manning with his strong arm, pocket presence, field vision, and passing polish. In terms of his flaws, Jones is more similar to Eli Manning than Peyton Manning.

Cheers!

Personally, I hate it.

Our biggest needs right now are NOT a Wide Receiver, though we need one eventually. Our biggest needs are
QB and OL, and they are simply not addressed at all. To wait until the 4th round to get an OLman is ridiculous. Unless we had the Ravens scouting staff, anyone picked in the 4th round is a huge question mark and we don't need more question marks we need starters.

And QB, even if Jones can go, with his neck issues he is one hit away from becoming a sportscaster in a booth somewhere. Even if he goes out and burns up the league, any hit on his neck could be the last we ever see of him so how can we put all our eggs in his basket? We need a new face at QB, and that is the #1 priority.