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Quote from: londonblue on April 22, 2024, 03:06:09 PMA bit less than New England got for Jones and Chicago got for Fields. If you get it wrong at QB (particularly if you give up assets to trade up for one) then you pay a severe price.

Given that the hit rate in R1 is c. 50% on QB and certainly no better when trading up for one this is the nightmare scenario that we could face this year. Is the worst case outcome worse than more Jones? That is the opinion divider!

No matter what Schoen does/does not do we will need a lot of luck on our side for once to get a good outcome.

We know what we have in Jones. Even with stellar support, I don't see it getting more than marginally better than 2022.

Obviously there are no guarantees but knowing what we have now, I'll take the opportunity at 50/50 to get someone better.

Quote from: kingm56 on April 22, 2024, 01:38:25 PMHe's the most likely QB to fall to the Giants; hence, it's easy to 'report' it as a possibility, so they can take  credit for it down the road. I doubt they heard anything from any reliable source; instead, they're just employing common sense.  Like you, I don't believe any of it.

100% This!

Chatter from a few of my very reliable sources revealed that tomorrow is Tuesday. 

This just in: Giants are interested in a player in the first round. 

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Bravo, Ed. 

Well done!

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 19, 2024, 05:34:58 PMCongrats Tim! Amazing     

I was just waiting for my broken clock to be right!

Time to retire this one and switch up my starting word.

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I have a love-hate relationship with cats.

Before Sharon and I got married, she had "rescued" a cat from another AF member. They actually met by chance at the kennel. He was turning in the cat for adoption because he and his wife were getting ready to have their first child and she did not want the cat any longer. After talking with him for a while, Sharon decided to take "Hobbes" home. Hobbes was now the "man" of the house.

After we got married, there was a new sheriff in town and Hobbes wasn't having it. He would challenge me at every turn, hang out on the top of the fridge and take swipes at me as I passed, and all kinds of other craziness. It took some time but I eventually won him over. I have tons of pics of him sleeping on me, jumping on me to hold him like a baby, hanging around me like my shadow lol.

We were close until he finally went home to his maker. We never got another pet after Hobbes. Too emotional.

Very misleading title, at worst. This is far from a feud. Media personality says he heard something. Person in the know denies it. Par.

I'm probably more in favor of filling out the roster. At a minimum, I'd like to have a legitimate star in each position group.

I think Belichick created the model for sustainable competitiveness by accumulating a few stars, a lot of interchangeable talent, and a system that was bought into by all players, especially the top dog.

Quote from: katkavage on April 18, 2024, 03:31:23 PMAfter five years, I've seen more than enough. Jones is not horrible. He's not a bust like Zach Wilson. But he's not gonna get you where you want to go either. His ceiling is maybe a 15 ranking. He can't go higher than that and if the Giants keep the status quo, there will be rookies that will be ranked higher than Jones after next year. And yes he says he had a stinger last year. And a torn ACL, which for him to even get to 100 percent will be October at the earliest. As a Giant fan, I hope for better. Simple as that.

I get it.

He does just enough to give hope but lacks the supporting cast to elevate the team. QB Hell.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on April 18, 2024, 02:14:27 PMIt shouldn't though because as much as people try to act like Jones was magnificent in 2022, he wasn't the 3200 yards and 15 tds show that. So if he duplicates 2022 then in my eyes it's even more obvious we need a change. A 6th year Qb that can't throw for 4,000 yards when 4th rd picks come into this league every year and do it with less talent should be alarming.

I like Schoen but he's been burned by Jones twice and it's clear that Mara is still providing a negative influence on the roster.

I truly feel that after the playoff win against Minny, Mara, in some way, shape, or form, let Schoen know that he wanted to get a deal done to keep Jones. Some sort of compromise was made to give Schoen a reasonable out after the second year.

If Jones happens to lead this team to another playoff victory, Schoen will have a helluva time ditching Jones.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 01:50:24 PMIf Jones plays in 2024 and plays well, are we still calling it "Gettleman's Giant Gift"   

Yes... it will keep us in QB Hell.

Quote from: MightyGiants on April 18, 2024, 01:42:30 PMThe fun thing about that point is it's a no-lose situation for those claiming the Giants have buyer's remorse.  After all, the inverse won't prove them wrong.  They can clam they were right in either outcome since we can't preclude a lack of drafting a QB is proof of a lack of interest in drafting a QB.

True... they may try to make a move for the guy they want and it doesn't work out. Initial point still holds true: they have buyer's remorse.

Until Jones is a former Giant, he will continue to bite Schoen and Daboll in the tush. Call it Gettleman's Giant Gift.

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Giants pick RD 1 QB = Buyer's Remorse

Quote from: Jolly Blue Giant on April 18, 2024, 10:34:55 AMMy take FWIW, is that the coaches analyze everything, and then DJ does what he's told to do based on the play called from the sideline. He isn't Roger Staubach calling plays in the huddle on his own while Landry watches to see what he decides to do. Giants coaches know DJ's limitations, and they also know the limitations of the OL and receivers. And they call the shots based on their own analysis and what they think will work. If DJ was a loose canon who did what he felt like doing instead of sticking to the play calling, he would have been cut a long time ago

I have no worries that DJ can't read the defense or that he processes slow. He's balancing doing what exactly what he's told, while usually running for his life...and don't forget, he has been told to NOT THROW INTERCEPTIONS after a bad start of turning the ball over

These are the reasons I put him into the game manager category.

Plays will not always develop the way they are drawn up on the board. There's a lot of improvisation that happens on every play. The only improv DJ does is to cut and run.

I need my QB to understand the playbook but also know how to deviate from the called play and make sh*t happen.