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Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 07:53:26 AMThere could be some cause for optimism. It was reported that Lock wasn't serious enough about putting in the work t get to the next level but last year there was marked improvement. Maybe Daboll saw something in him. For sure he would drive the ball downfield.

As for Tommy, another year in the system and an off-season to prepare, might make him more effective. He was just thrown in there LY. The key will be if they carry three QB's this season.

Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 07:53:26 AMThere could be some cause for optimism. It was reported that Lock wasn't serious enough about putting in the work t get to the next level but last year there was marked improvement. Maybe Daboll saw something in him. For sure he would drive the ball downfield.

As for Tommy, another year in the system and an off-season to prepare, might make him more effective. He was just thrown in there LY. The key will be if they carry three QB's this season.

between the 3 of them, it still comes down to the oline. no one will succeed if they dont get it together.

Quote from: Ed Vette on Today at 07:53:26 AMThere could be some cause for optimism. It was reported that Lock wasn't serious enough about putting in the work t get to the next level but last year there was marked improvement. Maybe Daboll saw something in him. For sure he would drive the ball downfield.

As for Tommy, another year in the system and an off-season to prepare, might make him more effective. He was just thrown in there LY. The key will be if they carry three QB's this season.

With our organization's history of injuries, they'd be foolish not to.

I think Cutlet's change of agents may also prove beneficial to him.

Only stat that concerns me is the W-L record.

Quote from: brownelvis54 on May 01, 2024, 09:29:29 PMOur QB room looks pretty bleak

Jones: two neck surgeries and an ACL

Drew Lock who couldnt beat out Teddy Bridgwater and Gino Smith (twice)

Cutlets, enough said

There could be some cause for optimism. It was reported that Lock wasn't serious enough about putting in the work t get to the next level but last year there was marked improvement. Maybe Daboll saw something in him. For sure he would drive the ball downfield.

As for Tommy, another year in the system and an off-season to prepare, might make him more effective. He was just thrown in there LY. The key will be if they carry three QB's this season.

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Agreed, Jeff.

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He is right about most of the mechanics but is wrong about dead cap. The Dead Cap is factored into the preseason 51 calculation so we do have cap space right now. Our $19m dead against the cap is mid table (21/32).

NFL Cap 255.4m
Carried over 2.5
Adjustment 2.5*
Top 51 (235.0)
Dead Cap (19.0)
Available Cap 6.4
Data from OTC
* The adjustment is a technical credit

You typically need an extra $6m to cover incremental rookie contracts over the bottom guys on the 51. Another $5-6m is needed to cover the shift from 51 to 53 and inclusion of the PS (dependent on the make-up of the PS) so he is correct that our effective cap space is lower, in effect negative. In fact it is likely to be more negative once you include IR/PUP but not c. $18m.

In summary, he understands it better than most media but his dead cap error led him off course. He ignores the fact Giants have easy options to help manage the squeeze. There are several contract restructures to create space that we can do unilaterally (by rule, without any negotiation) and if Waller quits and we post June him we also gain space.

So, NO we are not in actual cap trouble but we are cap restricted, will have to do more cap management and cannot just offer big contracts to veterans to improve CB, DT, OL.

P.S. Restructures and post June designations do tend to create future dead cap but like every NFL team bar the extreme contract manipulators (New Orleans, potentially Philly in future with their increasing use of void years) we can manage this somewhat comfortably when the cap is rising.

Ideally you want to keep dead cap at a reasonable level and limit it to one year per contract (no void years). We might well have a bigger dead cap hit but more cap space next year if we cut Jones and draft a rookie. We would have a better cap platform for the future beyond 2025 as a result.

Here endeth my accountant geek out!

Quote from: Topshelf21 on Today at 01:36:42 AMI thought he was the swiss army knife in college or am I mistaken about what I remember about Simmons?!?!

He was in college, playing a little bit of everywhere.

Quote from: Jclayton92 on May 01, 2024, 09:06:11 PMI think teams have made the mistake of trying him everywhere instead of sticking him somewhere permanently.

I thought he was the swiss army knife in college or am I mistaken about what I remember about Simmons?!?!